First up, let's look at the encoding of the original:
http://pariomarketing.com/designchallenge/word1-3.png

....huh...that's funny. Now, can anyone tell me WHAT the fuck is WRONG
with that image?

Bit Depth...24
Color Count...49

.....hurr, hurr, what teh fuck is wrong with this picture? I mean, no,
really, even a FRESHMEN LEVEL design major could figure THAT out.
*rolls eyes*

For reference, here's a CORRECTLY encoded version of the same image:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/Word_To_Drew's_Mom.png

Do note the EIGHT bit depth.

Okay, now that we got the technical hooha out of the way, let's look
at the quality of the image itself.

Let's look at THIS part:
http://www.backwater-productions.net/_adg/OUCH_I_FUCKIN_CUT_MYSELF_ON_DREW'S_STUPIDITY.png

Uh oh, now can any of you FRESHMEN LEVEL designers tell professor
Hatter what's WRONG with THAT?

Tell us all Drew, do you think you could have POSSIBLY made those
lines look ANY more jagged and amateur looking? Do you even know
ANYTHING about digital typography? Oh, wait, what did your DUMBFUCK
self call it again, that's right, "fontography"...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fontography
"No results found for fontography."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/typography

1.
a. The art and technique of printing with movable type.
b. The composition of printed material from movable type.

2. The arrangement and appearance of printed matter.

*nods*

Tell us Drew, just HOW full of shit are you, exactly?

There's a few other things I could go into, regarding color theory,
your choice of "safe" colors and various other things, but I think
I've firmly established that you're just a fuckin poser ass wannabe.
Stick to print design, Drewster, cause graphic design is just too far
out of yer depth.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On May 16, 11:27 pm, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
You're not a professional, so your post was meaningless.

On 17 May 2007 03:12:19 -0700, SpaceGirl
<nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:

The sad thing is, for all I claim about being an artist more than a
professional...I'm *WAY* more profession design wise than the whole
lot of you kids combined...of course, you're still designing kiddie
sites for garage bands, I'm designing high end stand alone Flash
applications for use at White House conferences. *shrugs*

BTW, nice snip and run from all the relevant critique I posted. I'm
guessing you won't reply to that other post either on the issue of
bandwidth. I'm sure your dialup customers just LOVE you...oh, wait,
you don't HAVE any, LOL...there goes 30% of your US market, Bumbles.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Ow yes, do mine too , do mine too. ;o)

"salami met bami" <ofje@worst.lust> wrote in message
news:464dcae6$0$21434$e4fe514c@dreader28.news.xs4a ll.nl...
What? You mean you're not absolutely devastaed when someone so God-like
tells you your work is not good and thathis is better. What? You don't
believe him just because he is so God-like? What? You can't tell that he is
God-like?

Looks like that campaign to TAKE BACK ADG is slowing a little. Why do I keep
picturing George W. Bush when I think of the campaign to TAKE BACK ADG? How
long before Matt lands on an aircraft carrrier to declare, "Mission
accomplished?"

Fred

Fred Doyle wrote:

Isn't it cute the way Matthew puts PROFESSIONAL and AMATEUR in caps to
convince himself that it's a fact. When he's fully demonstrated that he
doesn't know the difference between design and compression. (should I
have capitalized those 2 words?)

Oh well, I've got 3 more weeks to allow him to continue to fool himself.

drew

"Drew" <whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote

And believe me, I'm as convinced of his God-like PROFESSIONAL status as I'll
ever be. So, yes, one has to wonder who it is that he keeps trying to
convince. (nah, not really, we all know who it is he needs to convince.)

Fred

"Fred Doyle" <fdoyle1@nycap.rr.com> schreef in bericht
news:134rpi4fepl503b@corp.supernews.com...
I dwell on it, I go to the sitepoint site just to get my daily dose.

I make a design it mostly gets plastered and i look what
logo they choose and laugh my ass off, most of them don`t have a clue
and just want a cheapish logo. It is great fun, I never win, and I would
be disappointed if I would.
The most delicious ones are the "I don`t know what I want but when
I see it, I know that that is what I want." And then you just are left in
the
dark and you just start drawing stuff, which they ofcourse domn`t like,
and in the progress of that you find out that they don`t like anything.
But you find out what they don`t like, never what they want.

You should try it sometimes, it`s great fun.
http://www.sitepoint.com/marketplace...yid=15&subcats[]=5
And don`t go on about speck work, I never win so I never do speckwork. ;o)

On Fri, 18 May 2007 13:45:39 -0400, "Fred Doyle"
<fdoyle1@nycap.rr.com> wrote:

Here's a Free cl00 for ya Fred...currently 100% of all conversations,
subjects, topics, posts and threads that are made in ADG are either TO
ME or they are ABOUT ME...in other words...I own this group...in
totality. What's funny is that the "mission" was essentially
accomplished the minute you reacted to it.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Fri, 18 May 2007 23:28:10 +0200, "salami met bami"
<ofje@worst.lust> wrote:

Now you see this is interesting. I mean when *I* go around claiming
to be a really great designer and yadda yadda yadda...all you
doorknobs get all up in a snit about it...but uh...well isn't that
what YOU just did? I mean yer the guy whose logos NEVER GET
PICKED...and yet you keep runnin at the mouth about how great YOU
think you are in COMPARISON to the ones what WIN...even going so far
as to stick yer lil red amateur nose up in the air and scoff at the
winners, blaming both them and their clients for having no taste at
all...

o_O

....does that not strike a chord of irony at all in you? Cause it
should. I mean I might go around claiming I produce some pretty damn
good lookin stuff...but you wanna know the difference between you and
I...I've had clients who LIKED and WANTED my work...where as with
you...*shrugs*...you're not even capable of producing something that
you can sell to anyone.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> schreef in bericht
news:il8t43p9s9f17c9o8i50gnlar1o3upuuok@4ax.com...
Firstly, I am not all over you about your claims, I actually don't give a
fuck and...

No you didn`t read it right, I don`t put my nose up at the winners, but at
the
ones that hold the competitions. Besides that, I never claimed my work is
better,
it isn`t compared to some of them, I know this. The thing is that the
competition holders
are ridiculous, and choose the weirdest logo`s, not the best. Mostly they
don`t even have
a clue.

So you projected your reasons for laughing the ass off on me, I have
very different reasons for laughing my ass off. You probably miss something
called ampathie.


It shouldn`t, for the explanation you gave is false, and not about me
but about you.

Look I don`t know what chip you have on your shoulder.
I don`t have to sell anything to anyone, I have a totally different daytime
job.
I just started a year ago, I am still learning, I don`t call myself a
profesional
because I am not, I am just enjoying myself, while you are so stuck up
and anal that if they put a lump of coal up your ass it would turn into a
diamond.

Look, it is not all about you maddy." You probably think this song is about
you,
don`t you don`t you? " ;o)

"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> schreef in bericht
news:tf8t43l6grs0b784450u2o0a1aol0gbk3j@4ax.com...
Oh no, another legend in his own mind.

On May 19, 3:08 am, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

Yes, talk shows are popular for a reason. You misunderstand, I
believe. For some reason human beings tend to be amused by, again, the
absurd. Naturally posts are going to gravitate to you if you spew
forth nonsense half the time. If you make it your business to argue
against common sense then what do you -think- is going to happen?
People are going to feel compelled to respond to you no matter -who-
you are in these situations... it' too easy. It's not -you-, man...
it's humanity's obsession with confrontation.

I mean, essentially you make it easy for people to prove you wrong and
that taps into a desire a lot of people have... even you have it; to
make someone look stupid. You deliver the fodder and people are quick
to tap it. And I'm sure you're going to make it a point to attempt to
prove ME wrong... which proves me right!

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

Well, not quite, but when has being accurate ever interested you? And I
agree, people are having a good time making you look like a putz. If
that was the goal of the campaign to TAKE BACK ADG then maybe you have
succeeded. But I thought it was to raise our consciousness about what
was good, non-boring art?


--
Fred Doyle

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
Multi-million dollar web sites for band, multi-million dollar booking
sites for insurance companies, drinks companies, the worlds largest
directory, several magazines, several comics, music videos, poster
campaigns, several very large company corporate brands... Yeah, kiddie
stuff.

Nope. Cuz while you're worrying about milking every last few Kb, we're
building other site for other client. All our sites work fine over 56k,
and are tested. But we're not obsessive about every single Kb. Life is
short. People can view our sites. If the sites are a tad slow, then they
need to upgrade, but it's not like we server video to these people; they
always get the option to choose the appropriate flavor of the site of
ours they are on, and we generally serve 3: Flash (high bandwidth), 2:
HTML 'lite' site, 1: XML/RSS.

However, because of our clients we do tend to target more than other
studios, I think.

--

x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
LOL

Okau, good point. Okay, no more replies

--

x theSpaceGirl (miranda)

On Sat, 19 May 2007 12:15:33 +0100, SpaceGirl
<nothespacegirlspam@subhuman.net> wrote:

Fact is though, when it comes to design I'm the hottest thing there is
right now. I'm right on the edge and I'm right quick to question
every last gawd damn cliche and textbook method in the book, ever
quick with arguments, irrefutable facts and examples:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...go_Compare.png

Part of the reason why you all LIKE arguing with me so much is because
when it comes to design I'm INTERESTING, I do shit that NOBODY does
and I constantly make you question your own methods and understandings
when it comes to graphic design. I'm so the fuck far outside of the
box I'm in gawd damn ORBIT! Slurp it, suck it, you know you all want
it.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

You're spending so much time and effort responding to everyone and
everything, it appears you are quite owned by the group.

--
Fred Doyle

Fred Doyle wrote:
Kind of like a dog chasing it's tail.

And yes, he is owned by us.

Roll over, Matt. Roll over.

Drew

Drew wrote:
5 paragraphs, in just one thread and in just one day. If he isn't owned,
he's at least performing well for the group. Who is he trying to
convince of what?

--
Fred Doyle