Hatter,

Do you know what program does the following in your dealings with Video
and related...
(I know you do work with video for web with chapter points)

In this case the end product is DVD video with motion authoring,
chapter points AND HYPERLINKS... also video will be uploaded to web.
Encore? Would Flash have any role/capability in this scenario? only for
Web Video with Chapter Points?

Thank you in advance,
Kathy

<smitthy5319@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1160026730.245624.38270@i3g2000cwc.googlegrou ps.com...
WHY dont you just hire him to do some work for you???? hehehehaha

UprightCitizen wrote:
I would hire OMH in a heartbeat as long as he delivers value and his
rates are reasonable. I suspect he's a completely different person in
real life.
--
Bill

Bill K wrote:
Explain how this isn't real life.

B

"Brian Mays" <bmays@newsok.com> wrote

That's an excuse used by someone who doesn't want responsibility for their
words.

There's a lot aof variations that float around Usenet and the web in
general. It's not even a new discussion limited to the digital age.
Epistemology.

Fred Doyle

On Oct 5, 7:45 am, "Bill K" <msuwkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
I would hire OMH in a heartbeat as long as he delivers value and his

((I'm having some trouble with this new beta interface... hope this
posts correctly))

Given my reservations of tirades or asking the wrong question in the
wrong manner on the wrong day, from what I have seen 'Hatter' clearly
has the Video/Flash thing mastered.

Previous I did email Hatter to inquire about consultation, but he never
answered back... so in case my email was perceived Spam, I thought I'd
ask here. I don't know if any here at ADG have knowledge of this topic
or can steer me to a helpful web link by chance?. ((I have spent some
time sifting throught Video related pages on this topic))

Fred Doyle wrote:

That's why they don't touch that one with a ten foot pole.

I'm betting they've already had to take some responsibility. I'm
betting they also probably don't know it. They probably missed a number
of opportunities.

No one is as anonymous as they ever think.

smitthy5319@yahoo.com wrote:
For web video, both Flash and QuickTime could give you the capability of
chapter points and hyperlinks. QuickTime Pro's interactivity
capabilities are broadly underrated. For DVD video, though, what good
would hyperlinks do you? It is possible to place buttons within the
video that pressing the select button on your player's remote will
activate (there have been commercial DVDs released with "easter eggs"
implemented in this way), but you could only take the viewer to other
content on the disc.

If what you mean by "hyperlinks" is just simple links that take you from
one place in the video to another, then the DVD spec. will do fine, and
either QT or Flash for the web version, probably. I am not very well
versed in the pros and cons of streaming video with QT versus Flash.
Both seem to carry their weight these days, and have been implemented in
demanding commercial environments (think YouTube/Google Video for Flash
and Apple's entire movie trailer site for QT).

Good luck!

--
Aaron

"Mankind are greater gainers by suffering each other to live as seems
good to themselves, than by compelling each to live as seems good to the
rest." -- John Stuart Mill

On Oct 9, 8:38 am, Aaron <a...@thebailiwick.com> wrote:
Aaron,

Thanks for your reply. I feel as though I am on a huge learning curve
with some of the topics I have been looking into. What is unique about
this project is that the DVD will have hyperlinks to the customer's
website. Our current solution is that the DVD duplicating house is
going to create the script for both the DVD menu rollovers and the Web
hyperlinks, using our artwork (which in this case will be put in
Photoshop layers). I think they are using After Effects. We have done
DVD menu-ing before with After Effects (not me personally) but all of
this project is going to be integrated (i.e., DVD quality Video...
Customer's web site... importing Customers PowerPoint slides).

When I first heard about the project scope, I was thinking Flash was
going to play a part.. and it still may for the Web. But Flash, if I'm
not mistaken - is intended for use with compressed video, not full
strength DVD video.

Thanks again for the information
-Kathy

On 4 Oct 2006 22:38:50 -0700, smitthy5319@yahoo.com wrote:

I don't quite understand what it is you're asking. On the one hand
you say the end product is a DVD video...but then you say you want
'video uploaded to web' and 'hyperlinks'...but if the end product is a
DVD video and someone puts that in their stand alone DVD player...well
they're not going to be magically connected to the Internet through
their TV. o_O

What you ~could~ do, if I'm interpreting what you wrote correctly, is
to have a DVD Video that will just play video (with chapter
points,etc) on a stand alone DVD player (connected to a TV) and then
~if~ you put that DVD into your computer you could throw in an
autorun.inf to launch a stand-alone Flash application (or any type of
application really) that could essentially then do...whatever you
could possibly imagine (provided you have the skills and technical
understanding to do it). In this particular group the only other
person besides me who has such skill would be Spacey (Space Girl).

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On 5 Oct 2006 12:04:58 -0700, smitthy5319@yahoo.com wrote:

I get tons and tons of spam (even when using spam assassin) so if you
want to make sure that I'll actually read an email make the subject as
unique as possible. Or, even better, use a custom e-mail addy.

Instead of sending emails to usenet@backwater-productions.net use an
addy like hi-my-name-is-farfoos@backwater-productions.net (you can
make up whatever you like for the first part) cause emails that I get
from the usenet addy go into a giant bin that I ~occasionally~ browse
through every now and again (and not with a lot of attention). Using
a custom addy will make sure your message winds up in my primary email
folder, the one I actually check closely and often on an hourly basis
(unless I'm sleeping or out and about).

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Thu, 05 Oct 2006 17:33:13 GMT, Brian Mays <bmays@newsok.com> wrote:

Because there is no way to tell whether something here is real or not.
I can go around claiming to be a Vatican nun or whatever the hell else
I want...whose to say if its true or not? You can NEVER tell with ANY
degree of ABSOLUTE certainty whether something is true or false...and
because of that gross ambiguity you simply have to take everything
online with a grain of salt (ie not seriously, ie NOT real life). If
you don't do that...yer gonna get all fucked in the head. ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Oct 15, 10:08 am, Onideus Mad Hatter
<use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote:

I don't quite understand what it is you're asking. On the one hand

Hatter,

If my description sounded confusing, sorry. My initial question IS now
answered though, (the replicating company will provide the scripting)
but no doubt, with this project there will likely be more questions.
Our scope is to provide the Video Production services and up to DVD
replicating. (Currently our scope is not to be concerned with the
customer's web content, etc.) but that the DVD itself, also includes
links to the customer's website. Portions/Content from their website
will be downloaded into a templated section of the DVD content/page
upon clicking on those links.

Meaning, when the user is playing the DVD on a computer with internet
connectivity. But, If they are just viewing on a 'set-top' DVD Player
these links will obviously be non-functional.

Why I confused this thread (and myself) is that the customer also spoke
of uploading Video, etc to their website (my guess- a non-DVD version
of the same content).

So, now I know how I may email you, should we wish to contact you.

Thank you,
-Kathy

Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

Interesting logic. Reality is based on your ability to distinguish
people's lies when they tell them.

What medium of communication can you tell with absolute certainty if
something is true? Telephone? Talking to someone? Radio? TV? Newspapers?
You're frequently required to make judgments about the veracity of the
information being conveyed to you, and can never be absolutely certain
about it.

Golly there is no reality.

And if I do that, I end up like you? Tough choice.

--
Fred Doyle

On Oct 15, 10:08 am, Onideus Mad Hatter
<use...@backwater-productions.net> wrote:


Different Project - question related to your comment:

I created a Flash demo that we want to put on a DVD. I have been
exporting this to different Movie formats (because it is going on the
DVD). We want it initiated with a PLAY button. Earlier, I thought we
could "just link the Play button" to the Flash... but the DVD menuing
software doesn't like that idea.

Aurorun.inf ??? Favorite link/article to steer me ? Is this major
programming to do?

On Oct 17, 4:21 pm, smitthy5...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hatter... I found a Link with a plugin to do what you were talking
about. I tested it and it worked!!!

I'm glad you mentioned this... the alternative was not a good solution
and degraded the quality of the Flash.

On 17 Oct 2006 15:06:03 -0700, smitthy5319@yahoo.com wrote:

Cool deal.

Yeah I came across it about a year ago when I had a client who wanted
a stand alone Flash application that would autorun when the user put
the CD/DVD in their computer. It's quite handy.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )