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quick format question
Posted by Matt on October 5th, 2004


I actually edit/create graphics for video and I used a little clip art
cartoon character in an ad for one of my clients. Well they liked it and
wanted to put it on a t-shirt with the company name for their staff to wear
at company softball games, picnics etc... Since my source file was a tiff, I
can't draw, and I've never really worked in Illustrator, I did the layout in
Photoshop and exported everything as an EPS file. Now my client says that
her t-shirt guy can't use the file and needs a vector format to make the
shirt. I always thought that an EPS file was a work around if you didn't
have a vector file. Was I wrong? And will I have to find someone that can
redraw the cartoon character by hand in Illustrator?... I hope not because I
wasn't really going to charge her for this since she's a good client.


Posted by Steve on October 5th, 2004


EPS is a combination of vector and bitmap graphics. Sadly I believe when you
export a graphic from PS, anything not specifically vector based, ie fonts
(not sure about shapes in CS) is just treated as a bitmap. What I'm saying
is your EPS is a bitmap file in all but name. You really need a different
tool for the job.

s.


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Posted by Davide Montellanico on October 5th, 2004


Hi Matt,
May be I'm wrong but I suggest you to consider the resolution of the TIFF
file.
How did you get it? Is it a scanned image or simply a screen capture?

If the resolution is to low I think you'll end out with a poor quality
printing.

So far as I know, the EPS file is suited for a good quality printing, but
there is no reason to use it only for a low resolution bitmap image. The
EPS, as the name implies (Encapsulated Postscript file), has bitmap images
and fonts encapsulated within it.
It uses a low resolution image to preview the imported pictures (PIC or PCX
format), but all the informations about the high resolution bitmap are
included inside it.

Postscript files can be processed by the imagesetter much faster than
application files (Quark, InDesign) and you don't need to give the printer
all the assets required (fonts and high resolution images) because they are
embedded within the EPS.
Consider to use EPS files for printing layouts.

If your image isn't a high resolution bitmap I think the only solution is
to produce a vectorial format of the clip art.
You could try to use Adobe Streamline if you want to speed up your drawing
job and then work on the details in Illustrator.

HTH

cheers :-)

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Posted by Davide Montellanico on October 5th, 2004


Hi Steve,
Photoshop could be different, anyway all the fonts are generally exported
into EPS as vector outline font.
If the imagesetter support Poscript language, all the fonts will be printed
perfectly. Anyway I don't remember if there is any difference between PS
font and TTF because I almost always used a mac with PS fonts to do printed
works.

cheers :-)

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Posted by Matt on October 5th, 2004


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an EPS then exported the whole thing as an EPS and then gave him all the
fonts associated with the t-shirt. I also went into Illustrator and
recreated all the text and then converted it to outline and gave them that
as well. My problem lies with the image... it's a mix of a generic clip art
file of a construction worker and some art work a former employee drew for
another client a while ago (this particular part was never used) that I've
altered for the shirt. I'm not sure of the quality for the generic clip art
man but the other was scanned in at 600 dpi. I don't think I have the
skills to recreate the art in Illustrator and I can't really go out and buy
streamline since this is a freebee for my client.



Posted by Matt on October 5th, 2004



This probably won't work but I've noticed that if I open the Photoshop file
in Illustrator 9 it offers to convert the layers to an object. If I let it
convert the clip art to an object and then just place the text in and then
save everything as an AI file will it work?


Posted by woodsie on October 5th, 2004


In article <2sgf4gF1l10m7U1@uni-berlin.de>, "Matt"
<surpluss.nospam@bellsouth.net> wrote:

no.

show us the file and we can tell u how easy/hard it would be to convert it.

Posted by Matthew on October 5th, 2004


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http://www.hullcowindows.com/tshirt2.jpg



Posted by woodsie on October 6th, 2004


In article <zpKdnbspC_SWqP7cRVn-rw@comcast.com>, "Matthew"
<matt@somewhere.net> wrote:

half hour to draw that. easy peasy!

Posted by Matthew on October 6th, 2004


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must be nice to be that good with Illustrator! That's my problem, I really
haven't got the first clue when it comes to Illustrator. About all I know
in Illustrator is how to layout simple text and that the text must be
converted to outlines if you're giving the file to someone else. Other than
that it seems completely diffferent than the other Adobe apps I'm use to.



Posted by woodsie on October 6th, 2004


In article <jPadnWdxxa6dov7cRVn-og@comcast.com>, "Matthew"
<matt@somewhere.net> wrote:

it's just drawing matt. if u can master that then u basically know most of
what illustrator is about.

so grab the manual and have ago. that illustration is an ideal beginners
example.

Posted by Tomas Holm on October 6th, 2004


Sorry but someone has to redraw your image in vector.
And since your file is low res you Streamline will not help you.

If its a freebee they cant have the image (unless you decide to give a whole
lot of your time and learn Freehand)

Could you post the image for reference, perhaps there are some other
approach?

/Tomas


Posted by Davide Montellanico on October 6th, 2004


Don't worry Matt it's a very simple image. Take your time and try to redraw
it with patience.

You have to know only few Illy tricks and features to replicate this
picture. The vector application you use isn't an issue. Try to learn how to
use the pen tool at best and how to deal with paths and combine them. That's
all and simple.

cheers

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Posted by Melissa on October 7th, 2004


Aren't you comfortable with freehand? You could do it in Freehand.

Melissa


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