Thanks for all your advice on my site so far.

Due to different advice I received I'm working on a redesign and I have just
about everything I just need to put in text using the scrollers.

As you can see at the site www.vision2sight.com/new2.htm the new design is a
horizontal layout, everything that happens on the web page will happen in
the same window ala layers. If you click on any of the 'ways to be seen'
options you will see 4 menu type options pop up in the next window, once a
visitor clicks any of those I need the appropriate copy to appear. What is
the best way to go about this and how would I do it?

My main problem is when I start adding new scrollers. For example I can get
the first one set of ministry media, but my eyes start to cross and the DW's
screen gets a bit to out of wack to make since of it all when I add a new
one for print design.

Because this has already been time consuming (hide layer show layer)
already, I want to make sure I'm headed down the right path so I don't
complete it and get the old 'shouldn't have done it like that' 'that's not
gonna work' etc.

Nothing works really (nav 7, mac os 9).

Check out http://www.rodem.se/temp/adg/Bild-1.gif for screendump.

/Tomas

On 2004-07-07 13:40:24 -0400, "michael" <no more spam> said:

the background anim is really distracting.. to make hideshow work better use

onclick="document.getelementbyid('theidname').styl e-display='none/block'"
<-- none or block!

mark

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Tomas Holm <tomasUSEholm@hotmail.com> wrote:

Come back when you are serious.

The Doormouse

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Thanks for the screendump. I can't figure out why that doesn't show
everything...it works in IE...any ideas why the images aren't showing?

The why what how about don't work because I haven't put in their content
scrollers in the 3rd square yet as I wanted to make sure I wasn't making a
big mistake with the design concept first.

Any idea why that would be? They're there when I look at it on IE6...

..
What does that do differently? I am designing in DW so the code is
generated for me I'm not much of a hand coder.

Thanks.

Hmmm - harldy any of the grfx work. Left quickly....

~m

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that's what I get with IE, too, though

Doormouse,

Thank you for the constructive feedback...truly helpful.

mb

I thought it was actually halfway decent advice, considering....

Seriously, this thing's a mess. Have you only checked it in IE6 (on
Windows, I assume?). Your code can't get much more complicated (for what
seems to be a rather simple layout), so it's a little tough to debug.
You've got spaces in your image names (the "%20's" in the image paths),
so that might be a problem.

If you could post a screen cap of what it's *supposed* to look like, it
might be easier for folks to offer suggestions on where it is now and
how to get it closer to what you're looking for.

Also, if you're going to build a layout so heavily dependent on layers,
javascript, CSS, etc, I'd suggest you learn to hand-code some of these
things... DW tends to create awful bloated code when it comes to
javascript and such, and it's almost impossible to debug once you get it
in there... Just a suggestion.

Good luck.

Ben W.

michael wrote:

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Do all the images show up now for you?

your links are wrong, Have a look and fix them

file:///D|/Vision%202%20Sight/www/footer%202.gif


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Thanks Ben, it is a simple layout but the layers upon layers does make it
complicated. I THINK I fixed the problem, I just wasn't pointing to the
right spots for the images.

Truthfully not a bad suggestion to learn to handcode it...I'm just a visual
guy and it is much more intuitive for me to figure out an interface than
code...but I'm sure in the end I will need to do that.

I also checked it in Netscape and looks okay except for the scrollbar at the
bottom which I think is a pretty easy fix. Netscape seems to base the
window on the whole scroller even though only a portion of it is visible.
Most of my market will be on IE but some will be on a Mac platform as well
so I do need to make sure that works also.

mb

Thanks bob...is it better now?

www.vision2sight.com/new2.htm

mb


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"michael" <no more spam> wrote:

At least the images are fixed.

Nothing says, "Waste of my time" like a screen full of broken images, you
know?

If you want a critique I have soem things to point out.

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That's why I post a critique, to find out what you all see ie. broken
images. I certainly didn't post the page knowing that the links were
misdirected. I wouldn't waste anyone's time knowingly.

I would like your input. The page obviously is not done yet and I don't
want to get to far into the process just to find out the concept will not
work. I'm trying to create a page that's different from the typical pages
you see out there...it's what I was hoping to do with the original but that
design just isn't adaptable to various resolutions under 1024x768.

Just so you know the direction I'm taking...I want everything to be on one
screen I'm trying to accomplish this through hidden layers...I do run into a
bit of a dilemma when you reach the 3rd square which will house text after
you click on the why what how about links (in the second square shown after
you click on one of the links in the 1st square). There is just not a lot
of room, I don't like the normal scroll bar, but I know everyone has said to
stay away from javascript.

You gave me some good feedback on the initial design (which is currently the
active site www.vision2sight.com) and would like some more. The best
feedback to me is what you think and how I might go about fixing it.

Thanks.

mb

"michael" <no more spam> wrote:

Okay, here goes:

* "Be seen" is all but invisible. It won't "be seen".
* There are too many different fonts being used
* "home" and "contact" are too small
* the moving blocks drag my eyes OFF the page and fight my normal reading
pattern (left to right, top to bottom)
* there are myterious invisible borders on the left and right sides
* The e-mail icon is obscure (but the house works)
* the menu is a mystery
* too many menus
* the site goal is a mystery, but you do list topics
* there are sometimes three odd lines of blocks in the middle box that do
nothing
* http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=ht...ion2sight.com%
2Fnew2.htm%23

That's a good start for now.

The Doormouse

PS "Got Milk?"

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why? except for doing it as a learning exercise, how will this benefit the
person visiting the site? How do you plan on anything being indexed in a
useful manner? Let's say "hidden text" is indexed by a spider. A typical
user may go to the URL listed on a search engine, but will find nothing
relevant to their search that they can see because the text/info in question
is on a hidden layer. If I'm searching for specific text, I don't have time
to click on everything on a web page. I'll go to the URL, and do a FIND on
that page with some of the text from my initial search. If nothing comes up,
I click away and do more searching.