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This Is Taking Too Long...
Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 18th, 2006


Why can't it make itself? Just like...magic...*poof*...

*sigh*

Oh well, it continues:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...xay_Sprite.png

You know it wouldn't be so hard if I didn't have to create 7 different
views of the same clothes/hair pieces. At least the eye styles are
easy though. Bitch part is that when making teh generator some
accessories/clothes/emotions don't match exactly with some of the hair
pieces, so I have to create a lot of duplicate objects for each hair
style.

To make it even worse there's TONS of hair pieces for all the
different model types. Although so far I've only finished the teen
(18) girl and boy models:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...Boy_Primer.png

I'll probably do the middle aged man and woman pics next. Then teh
kiddie sprites (sorry pedos, there won't be visible genitalia on teh
kiddies) and then teh old peeps. I'm going to make all teh old peeps
in diapers so I don't have to draw old people genitalia. *shudder*:
http://www.backwater-productions.net...ps/Diapers.png

There will TONS of extra options from sunglasses, to glasses, to
pantyhose, to fur forms (fox, cat, dog, satyr, mermaid, harpy, etc),
angel wings, demon wings, elf ears, a variety of hats, skin tones,
etc. Plus on certain objects and the hair pieces you'll be able to
adjust the hue/saturation/light so the combinations will be near
infinite.

The other thing I'm planning on doing once the sprite generator is
finished is releasing a series of mini-games in which you get to play
as me and go around torturing some of my favorite kooks. Like in one
of the games the object will be to get Dave to kill himself. There
will be a variety of ways to off the poor bastard from getting him to
overdose on Xanax to running him over with a car, etc. And then I
plan to release one of Ass Plow, where the object will be to get him
gang raped up the ass so much he'll need diapers to keep from shitting
himself.

He, he, he...it's going to be a LOT of fun...well, for me anyway, I'm
sure for those of you who I enjoy tormenting because of your idiocy it
won't be much of a happy place. ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by UprightCitizen on October 19th, 2006



"Onideus Mad Hatter" <usenet@backwater-productions.net> wrote in message
news:209dj214nqf8e2ipaqvjctb8hjc9mlvse9@4ax.com...
Since you're not using your computer, can I have it?



Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 19th, 2006


On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 07:38:40 GMT, "UprightCitizen"
<jfiaodowl@oadlewoqocldaq.com> wrote:

Sorry, but I don't loan out my system to people who get off on
molesting computer hardware, you're more than welcome to "use" your
own system in any sordid, disgusting, sexually deviant way you choose
though, Uptight Clitty.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by Drew on October 19th, 2006


I don't have to look to know this is a waste of time.

I do know that it isn't a waste of talent. You'd have to have talent to
waste.

Matthew, you may now proceed with your public masturbation.

D

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 20th, 2006


On Thu, 19 Oct 2006 22:54:45 GMT, Drew
<whoisthatmaskedman@hotmail.com> wrote:

Yeah gaming and game creation is a COMPLETE waste of time...a twelve
BILLION dollar a YEAR waste of time that is. ^_^

Hey Drew...how's that whole...looking like a fucking retard thing
workin out for ya? Are ya enjoyin it? Hrmmm?

Oh hey Drew are you going to show us some examples of YOUR work now?
Oh...no I guess you won't be doing that...BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE ANY.
It's nice to see you spending...ALL of your time online COVETING mine
though, my lil Hatter Addict. `, )

Verbally hammering you into the proverbial wall 'o Usenet with your
own stupidity isn't so much masturbation as it is...well, verbally
hammering you into the provebial wall 'o Usenet with your own
stupidity. *shrugs*

....btw Drewster...where's yer lil boy friend, Brian? He seems to have
run away since that post where I fucked him up the ass with his inane
NONpinion about how graphic design in no way involves coding. How
come you weren't backin him up the ass on that one? What's the
matter, did you two bitches have a falling out or something?

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by m on October 20th, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

I hope that you have other images to add to those, because the walk
sequence is not complete.

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 20th, 2006


On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 00:30:21 -0700, m <m@m.com> wrote:

Um, actually it is...at least as far as traditional 2D gaming sprites
go. The program RPG Maker XP only allows for 4 frames (of any size)
for each of the 4 directional movements. That's standard though of
all traditional 2D RPG gaming sprites (try doing some rips from say
Final Fantasy 2/3, you'll see). As far as traditional animation goes,
yes, you would want more than 4 simple frames (technically 3) to
simulate a character walking.

There is however an error in the walk sequence I put up, currently it
looks like her head is bobbing forward like a chicken on the left and
right movements. I've got that fixed now.

Also, I have played around with the idea of creating my own version of
RPG Maker XP from scratch that would allow for 8 directional movement,
to better simulate a three dimensional environment...however on the
flip side I could just as easily create a whole different kind of
program (and sprite generator) for making 3D type games...wouldn't be
too advanced though, with my current level of
rendering/modeling/programming skill would be akin to say the early
N64 games. I want to finish the 2D stuff first though, partially
because it holds a lot of nostalgic value for me...I know it's not
something that the Barney generation has much of an appreciation for,
but the nonpinions of spazzy lil tweenage muppet fucks don't weigh too
heavily on my endeavors if you know what I mean. ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by m on October 20th, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/1...cpurple2qs.gif

It depends on the game coder and the limitations he sets for himself.

You have chosen your own set of limitations, it is not universal.

Posted by m on October 20th, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...lr%3D%26sa%3DG


Just do a search for "sprites" and you will see that there are many walk
sequences to choose from and some are much more than 3 frames.

Posted by m on October 20th, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

http://www.bluebomber.com/sprites/su...niforte003.gif


Enjoy.

Posted by m on October 20th, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

http://www.bluebomber.com/sprites/su...megaman001.gif


You have fun ... ok.

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 20th, 2006


On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 16:04:58 -0700, m <m@m.com> wrote:

....um, those are all from SIDE SCROLLERS, not RPGs. In RPGs you have
overworld sprite animations, called CHARASETS which is simple
left/right up/down movement with four frames max for each direction.
Then you can have battle character sprites, called BATTLE CHARASETS
that are slightly larger with more complex animation bits, similar to
some of the examples you posted however they're normally stationary or
semi-stationary. Then you have FACESETS, which is a detailed,
close-up face shot of the character, often used to show a characters
emotion better, to show them "talking" or to show them listed in the
menu setup. In addition to that you have CHIPSETS which make up all
the overworld mapping. Then you have PANORAMAS which are used
occasionally as backdrops. Other parts include the SYSTEM GRAPHICS,
FRAME GRAPHICS and TITLE/GAME OVER graphics...again though, this is
with RPGs...for SIDE SCROLLERS there is a whole different set of
terminology and design structure.

And this is all STANDARD...now if YOU would like to make YOUR OWN
character generator and RPG maker and would like to DEVIATE from that
standard...well you can go right on ahead and do that. As I said,
this project is mostly nostalgic for me which is why I'm using the
STANDARD methods for sprite creation FOR AN RPG.

I would suggest that the next time you suddenly feel the need to
attack someone's work that you should spend a little more time before
hand studying the various gaming forms and methodologies...so as to
not look ~quite~ so ignorant. Just a thought. ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by m on October 21st, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:

Funny how you feel that your "work" was being attacked.

Does your work have feelings? Or do you?

Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 21st, 2006


On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 17:03:20 -0700, m <m@m.com> wrote:

*Hatter takes out a bag of marshmallows.*

You make a lovely fire. It's better that you sit still and burn
quietly though. ^_^

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Posted by m on October 21st, 2006


Onideus Mad Hatter wrote:



I like it when you cry. You are so easy.



Posted by Onideus Mad Hatter on October 21st, 2006


On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:06:32 -0700, m <m@m.com> wrote:

I like it when you cry. You are so easy. Especially when you show
off the fact that you're too fuckin stupid to tell the difference
between an RPG and a Side Scroller.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )


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