There is a page used like a "notepad" concerning the development of a
new software for 2D drawing, filtering, composing and image
processing.

This work mix raster and vector based tools.
The core (portable for any OO language) already has more than one
million lines of code, since it has been made absolutelly from
scratch. No libraries, no imports.

Several math models and algorithms has been created to be used inside
this software, including:
- boolean (set) operations over arbitrary polygons;
- warping of vector based shapes;
- self-intersecting polygons simplification;
- 2D fast anti-aliased rasterizer;
- texture sinthesys.

It's not ditributable yet, but if you have curiosity/interest about
this kind of subject, you are invited to see/read something about it
in http://picturetopeople.blogspot.com/. There you will see some
screenshots about test software for the GDI (the core) been made.
This
screenshots have very ugly user interfaces, but, at this moment, the
goal is just show some things that can be done using the core
libraries.

On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 12:41:06 -0700 (PDT), kerberos <leocda@gmail.com>
wrote:

I'm not seeing anything there that can't already be done with software
I already have on my system, so my interest is nil. Also, it's pretty
fucking retarded to name your product so it has the same acronym as
another, already in active, high use piece of technology (in this case
peer to peer file sharing or P2P).

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On 29 jun, 09:38, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:
At least, I'm showing all my knowledge about Computer Graphics. Any
stupid can click buttons, but few people can go deep in Math.

If some people is too donkey to realize, I will explain here the
obvious:

- With the actual tech in CG, EVERYTHING can be drawed/rendered/done.
Any retarded now that. Nowadays the reseraches are abou make tasks
faster and involving less work for the designer and giving easier
tools for the non professional user/creator of graphics.

- every good quality new free software is a good improvement for the
tech world, since at each minute comes new people starting to design/
computer dealing and who don't bought any software yet. Have you ever
bought a lot of software? Such a pity ... you suck.

- I'm not worried about the acronym, since non stupid people can see
what is the correct meaning by the context.

- I don't care about any fool, stupid, non sense, unuseful,
destructive comment or opinion. Anybody is able to say stupid words
(mainly stupid people, of course, as you can see above), but just who
makes better than me what I make can to push my work down.

Have nothing useful to say? So give me a break. You suck.

In article <fb7a0b8e-c333-40ea-a104-8488f16aa8b0@
2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, leocda@gmail.com says...


Your killfile is your friend.

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 07:39:42 -0700 (PDT), kerberos <leocda@gmail.com>
wrote:

....um, that's great, it really is, except, again, you're not doing
anything that hasn't already been done before. I mean,
congratulations, you've reinvented the wheel! *crickets chirping*

Any "retarded" can't type very well either it seems. I surely hope to
your God that English isn't your primary language, because quite
frankly it would actually cause me physical PAIN to have to imagine a
level of stupidity that great.

Uh huh...so what's your point?

....what in the fuck are you babbling about? Yeesh, get a translator,
no a real one, Babelfish is *NOT* your friend.

Actually, everyone, stupid and not will look at the acronym "P2P" and
will think "Peer to Peer file sharing". You are nothing short of an
absolute fucking MORON for choosing the name/acronym that you did. If
anything, in all your idiocy, you actually thought you could use the
similar nyme to try and steal interest, sort of like when some
doorknobs will open say a burger joint and call it, "McDoogles" or
"McDonulds"...no retard, just like those types, your stupid ass isn't
fooling anyone and the failing effort only serves to show off what a
poser class little scamming fuckup you are. Basically, you KNOW that
what you've got is just rehashed shit that won't generate any interest
on its own, which is why you're resorting to such scamming redirection
tactics, trying to steal interest from those running searches on "P2P"
who are looking for information on file sharing.

Well you have clearly demonstrated that you, yourself are a foolish,
stupid, self destructive, nonsensical little snit...so maybe you
shouldn't throw stones in yer little glass house there.

And boy are you just AWESOME at it! Tell us, do you practice? LOL

Right, so anybody who doesn't agree with you is just stupid, I see,
boy that's some AWESOME logic there, R-tard. That's very typical of
chromosomal deficients though, they very often resort to simply
calling people childish names like "stupid" and "dumb" when they can't
actually defend or argue their position, often due to a lack of
intelligence and comprehension.

....what?! Yeesh, hire a translator man, or stick to forums where they
speak your native language, because you're just making an idiot of
yourself here.

It would appear you don't.

I could break your arm if you want...I don't think that's going to
make you any less retarded sounding though.

Yeah I suck yer mom's titties, you wanna buy some pictures? Mmm,
mmm, mmm...that bitch is liak a doorknob...EVERYBODY gets a turn!

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:49:55 -0500, phorbin <phorbin1@yahoo.com>
wrote:

Actually his killfile is *MY* friend, as it'll keep him from reading,
and more importantly, replying to my posts with any banal retardation.
Some people just don't know when to shut themselves the fuck up...and
that's why there are blinders (filters), they allow morons to setup a
program that can think for them and prevent them and their stupidity
from spreading across the grid.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

On 29 jun, 21:25, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

No capable to say anything useful yet ...

So stupid reply don't deserve an answer. I will not waste my time. I
have never met anybody so trash in a forum before.

You are so stupid than maybe you think you would make me a favor using
some software made by me. Keep away. I would love it.

I didn't ask you to use my software.

I didn't need your agreement or approval.

Keep clicking software buttons and saying nothing.

On 29 jun, 21:25, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:


A gente rala para fazer um software de qualidade e de cunho livre e
veja bem o tipo de coisa q a gente tem q suportar.

Vem um gringo inutil e revoltado, com uma inveja animalesca, cheio de
ofensas gratuitas. E isso porque eu apenas convidei os interessados a
conhecer o meu trabalho. Ele obviamente nao e um interessado, mas eu
pedi algo a ele afinal? Segundo ele, eu sou um retardado porque meu
software nao tem um acronimo exclusivo e porque nao fui capaz de
apresentar alguma nova revolucao tecnologica. Certamente ele e um
total ninguem sem ter o q fazer, mas, nem q fosse um artista renomado,
ele teria alguma propriedade para falar alguma coisa do meu projeto.
So aceito criticas de quem faz o q eu faco melhor do q eu.

Tem como discutir com um animal desses? As respostas sao do nivel de
uma crianca agressiva com menos de oito anos; coisas do tipo dizer q
vai quebrar meu braco.

O cara nao tem argumento pra nada ... e apenas pixacao gratuida e
destrutiva. Seu outros argumentos se limitam a me acusar de nao falar
um ingles tao supostamente nativo quanto o dele. Alias, parece ate q
eu implorei pra ele usar algum software meu ou fazer alguma coisa por
mim. Realmente ele me faria um grande favor sendo meu usuario, pois eu
preciso muito muito dele. Eu estou fadado ao fracasso sem a aprovacao
desse joao ninguem que veio nao se sabe de onde so pra me pentelhar.

E eu, ingenuamente, acreditava que este era um forum razoavelmente
serio, frequentado por pessoas de alto nivel. Este mundo esta perdido
mesmo.

Eu conheco pessoas que estao envolvidas com software livre esperando
algum reconhecimento. Quem ler a deploravel participacao desse pobre
coitado aqui nesta conversa de forum pode perceber q para alguns vc
deve pedir perdao ao mundo por se dedicar ao desenvolvimento de
software gratuito; e consire-se feliz por nao ser enforcado em praca
publica.

Obviamente o lixo humano vai escrever mais alguma coisa depois de mim
para tentar me escrotizar. Pessoas com esta personalidade podre
costumam necessitar de ter a ultima palavra, mesmo quando eles nao
sabem o q o outro falou. Mas e claro q eu nao vou perder meu tempo com
este traste. Ainda tenho muitas pesquisas a fazer e milhoes de linhas
para codificar e testar.

Escrevi este texto em portugues para q o ze ninguem nao possa ler. Eu
nao tenho nada a dizer a ele. Escrevi isto para alertar vc de que
software livre geralmente e isso: muita ralacao em troco de pedradas
gratuitas do pior tipo de escoria que rasteja pela grande rede.

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:08:53 -0700 (PDT), kerberos <leocda@gmail.com>
wrote:

....apparently not. Keep trying though, Fruit Loop.

I don't know, replying to your stupidity is quite a lot of fun.

But you've already wasted so much of it, why not waste more?

You must be new to the Internet.

....what? Yeesh, Babelfish is REALLY not the translator of choice.

Well, actually you kind of did, you moron. Or did you just forget
about the post you made effectively advertising your software?

Unfortunately for you, those are two things you'll very much get (and
not just from me) when you post to a PUBLIC forum. If you can't
handle a little bit of criticism and go flying off the handle at one
potential customer giving you a little flak...ya, you probably
SHOULDN'T be in business...and if you are, you won't be for very long,
trust me on this.

Perhaps if you could understand plain, simple English I would be
saying more than nothing, eh fruit loop?

On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 18:49:17 -0700 (PDT), kerberos <leocda@gmail.com>
wrote:

What the fuck retardation of a language is THAT?! Hey, MORON, in case
it skipped you, this is the ALT heirarchy, and the language spoken on
the ALT heirarchy is ENGLISH...now you can speak BAD English if you
want, but the second you start blathering on in some other language
BESDIES English:

Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com

....and don't worry, I'll be sure to mention to them that you're also
SPAMMING on Usenet...they tend to not liak that very much.

--

Onideus Mad Hatter
mhm ¹ x ¹
http://www.backwater-productions.net
http://www.backwater-productions.net/hatter-blog


Hatter Quotes
-------------
"You're only one of the best if you're striving to become one of the
best."

"I didn't make reality, Sunshine, I just verbally bitch slapped you
with it."

"I'm not a professional, I'm an artist."

"Your Usenet blinders are my best friend."

"Usenet Filters - Learn to shut yourself the fuck up!"

"Drugs killed Jesus you know...oh wait, no, that was the Jews, my
bad."

"There are clingy things in the grass...burrs 'n such...mmmm..."

"The more I learn the more I'm killing my idols."

"Is it wrong to incur and then use the hate ridden, vengeful stupidity
of complete strangers in random Usenet froups to further my art?"

"Freedom is only a concept, like race it's merely a social construct
that doesn't really exist outside of your ability to convince others
of its relevancy."

"Next time slow up a lil, then maybe you won't jump the gun and start
creamin yer panties before it's time to pop the champagne proper."

"Reality is directly proportionate to how creative you are."

"People are pretty fucking high on themselves if they think that
they're just born with a soul. *snicker*...yeah, like they're just
givin em out for free."

"Quible, quible said the Hare. Quite a lot of quibling...everywhere.
So the Hare took a long stare and decided at best, to leave the rest,
to their merry little mess."

"There's a difference between 'bad' and 'so earth shatteringly
horrible it makes the angels scream in terror as they violently rip
their heads off, their blood spraying into the faces of a thousand
sweet innocent horrified children, who will forever have the terrible
images burned into their tiny little minds'."

"How sad that you're such a poor judge of style that you can't even
properly gauge the artistic worth of your own efforts."

"Those who record history are those who control history."

"I am the living embodiment of hell itself in all its tormentive rage,
endless suffering, unfathomable pain and unending horror...but you
don't get sent to me...I come for you."

"Ideally in a fight I'd want a BGM-109A with a W80 250 kiloton
tactical thermonuclear fusion based war head."

"Tell me, would you describe yourself more as a process or a
function?"

"Apparently this group has got the market cornered on stupid.
Intelligence is down 137 points across the board and the forecast
indicates an increase in Webtv users."

"Is my .sig delimiter broken? Really? You're sure? Awww,
gee...that's too bad...for YOU!" `, )

Hi.

Reading your page, I can see your software deals with a lot of
different subjects in computer graphics. It's very hard to believe
just one guy have been making all of it alone. If it's really been
made from scratch, It's work for several dozen people. Are you part of
a team?

It looks exciting and I can’t wait to try it out. Maybe if you make a
plan for incremental versions, you could release something faster.

What about the goals for first release? Could you publish a cronogram?

Thks.


On 24 jun, 16:41, kerberos <leo...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 1 jul, 18:56, kramersh...@gmail.com wrote:

Your results are very impressive. You look to know computer graphics
development in deep.

Can I advise you, kid?

Don't waste your time making free software, because people will not
recognize your efforts.

If I was good like you in math and computer graphics, I would apply
for a high paid job in Pixar or Adobe.

On 24 jun, 16:41, kerberos <leo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Your results are very impressive. It looks you know computer graphics
development in deep.

Can I advise you, kid?

Don't waste your time making free software, because people will not
recognize your efforts.

If I was good like you in math and computer graphics, I would apply
for a high paid job in Pixar or Adobe.

On 24 jun, 16:41, kerberos <leo...@gmail.com> wrote:


I have never seen a library that can make all tasks, from low devel
drawing and clipping to final high level effects. Are you trying to
dominate the world?

Is there any chance to release the source? Or at least release the
library itself? I see your software is artistic, but there is a lot of
demand by other kinds of tools. If your library is as powerful as the
examples show, It should be great use it.

I suggest you think about it.

On 1 jul, 18:56, kramersh...@gmail.com wrote:

You could apply to be an alpha and/or beta tester for the software. If
kerberos accept this, you could put your hands on it before everybody.

On 2 jul, 11:30, michael.piq...@gmail.com wrote:


The library looks awesome, so the sotwares made from it can be too.

I think the library should be an open source project, having kerberos
as mentor. Many people is involved to computer graphics programming in
some way and could help to reach faster releases.

Beside this, the more important to me: I believe kerberos has a rare
kind of knowlegde and all of us could learn a lot from him.

On 2 jul, 01:22, Maxiv <mxvkol...@gmail.com> wrote:


You are absolutely right.

It's easy to see kerberos is very proficient in computer graphics. It
looks he has been making a very hard work.

I was thinking about join a free software team, but after what I saw
here, I have just given up.

Spend your time and work hard making a good quality free software just
to get fucking fool critics and curses is bad.

Kerberos should stop his free work and apply to a very high paid job.

On 29 jun, 09:38, Onideus Mad Hatter <use...@backwater-
productions.net> wrote:

I see your full name. Are you proud of what you have been made here?

I suggest you learn how to use a forum before start using.

Some considerations:

1) NEVER post using agressive words; if you feel it's hard to be kind,
at least avoid words like "fucking retarded". If you curse for free
like that, you are absolutely wrong at all.

2) Try to use this forum to post relevant coments. This forum is read
by a lot of people and you should not waste their time. Negative
opinions are ok, since you say something useful.

3) Try to learn about the subject you are talking about, mainly when
you are saying something negative for other person. For example: "p2p"
is NOT "peer to peer file sharing". The expression "peer to peer" is
very generic. It's very used concerning Networks, but, even inside
this subject, "file sharing" is just one use of "peer to peer
comunication".

4) Read something about good use of corporative software. Everybody
can have a signature and It's ok, but it must be used wisely. You
waste A LOT of space with irrelevant phases. This way, the more you
post, the more you waste space in servers HD. You fool signature
creates a lot of unuseful traffic (many people read this forum). Also,
any of your posts waste a lot of screen space, making very harder read
a conversation.

On 4 jul, 02:21, williamd...@gmail.com wrote:

Man, you said everything.

You are absolutely right.

On 4 jul, 02:21, williamd...@gmail.com wrote:

It was perfect. Congratulations!