- change drives
- Posted by PEPSI on October 6th, 2005
I did mean to change drives my second drive turn into a removable
drive how do i change it back?
please help me
--
PEPSI
"Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> Q. "If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer, configured
> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group’s hard drive?"
>
> A. Probably not unless your motherboard and other hardware is virtually identical
> to the hardware of the group's computer.
>
> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>
> --
> Carey Frisch
> Microsoft MVP
> Windows XP - Shell/User
>
> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> "Jocko" wrote:
>
> | I am a member of a local user group. The group’s computer has a removable
> | rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP ( Pro, formatted as
> | NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the group’s hard drive home
> | to install software for demonstrations, etc. If I install a similar removable
> | rack in my home computer, configured as the primary master, would I be able
> | to boot to the group’s hard drive?
> | Thanks
>
>
- Posted by Anna on October 6th, 2005
> "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
>
>> Q. "If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer, configured
>> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
>> drive?"
>>
>> A. Probably not unless your motherboard and other hardware is virtually
>> identical
>> to the hardware of the group's computer.
>>
>> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
>> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
>>
>> --
>> Carey Frisch
>> Microsoft MVP
>> Windows XP - Shell/User
>>
>> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
>> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> "Jocko" wrote:
>>
>> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
>> removable
>> | rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP ( Pro, formatted
>> as
>> | NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the group's hard drive
>> home
>> | to install software for demonstrations, etc. If I install a similar
>> removable
>> | rack in my home computer, configured as the primary master, would I be
>> able
>> | to boot to the group's hard drive?
>> | Thanks
"PEPSI" <PEPSI@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0E405E7E-DFE6-49CD-91E3-B3D677D9685A@microsoft.com...
>I did mean to change drives my second drive turn into a removable
> drive how do i change it back?
> please help me
> --
> PEPSI
I'm not sure who's asking what here, so let me first respond to Jocko...
The way this is normally done is as the following:
1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its removable
tray) that your user group employs.
2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.) you
clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in your
removable tray.
3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned drive
while it's connected in the user group's machine and install whatever
programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply substitute your
removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your programs. And, of
course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and replace it with
the user group's removable drive.
PEPSI:
I'm not sure if you're the OP but anyway I really don't understand your
question. Could you clarify?
Anna
- Posted by Jocko on October 8th, 2005
"Anna" wrote:
>
> > "Carey Frisch [MVP]" wrote:
> >
> >> Q. "If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer, configured
> >> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
> >> drive?"
> >>
> >> A. Probably not unless your motherboard and other hardware is virtually
> >> identical
> >> to the hardware of the group's computer.
> >>
> >> Changing a Motherboard or Moving a Hard Drive with XP Installed
> >> http://www.michaelstevenstech.com/moving_xp.html
> >>
> >> --
> >> Carey Frisch
> >> Microsoft MVP
> >> Windows XP - Shell/User
> >>
> >> Be Smart! Protect Your PC!
> >> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...t/default.aspx
> >>
> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
> >> "Jocko" wrote:
> >>
> >> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
> >> removable
> >> | rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP ( Pro, formatted
> >> as
> >> | NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the group's hard drive
> >> home
> >> | to install software for demonstrations, etc. If I install a similar
> >> removable
> >> | rack in my home computer, configured as the primary master, would I be
> >> able
> >> | to boot to the group's hard drive?
> >> | Thanks
>
>
> "PEPSI" <PEPSI@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0E405E7E-DFE6-49CD-91E3-B3D677D9685A@microsoft.com...
> >I did mean to change drives my second drive turn into a removable
> > drive how do i change it back?
> > please help me
> > --
> > PEPSI
>
>
> I'm not sure who's asking what here, so let me first respond to Jocko...
>
> The way this is normally done is as the following:
> 1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its removable
> tray) that your user group employs.
> 2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.) you
> clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in your
> removable tray.
> 3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned drive
> while it's connected in the user group's machine and install whatever
> programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
> 4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply substitute your
> removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your programs. And, of
> course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and replace it with
> the user group's removable drive.
>
> PEPSI:
> I'm not sure if you're the OP but anyway I really don't understand your
> question. Could you clarify?
> Anna
>
>
> Anna,
Thanks for your reply. This is getting a little confusing! Let me restate
the question. I would like to bring the club's drive home with me to install
demonstration software. I want to put the club's drive in my home computer
to do this. It would be much easier to install the software and make sure
everything is iin order before the night of the presentation.. I'm sorry if
my original post was unclear. In the time since my original post, I have
tried this, and it doesn't work. Our user group is hosted at a tech
school that has a number of computers that have similar motherboards, RAM,
BIOS, CDROMs etc. I was able to swap our club's drive successfully in a
couple of those computers. Doing that isn't going to help me, because all of
these computers are at the school, but it did shed some light on the issue of
swapping drives. If you have any suggestions or cures for my problem, I sure
would like to hear them, if not, I guess we'll just have to ask Santa for a
new laptop for the club!
Thanks, Jocko
- Posted by Anna on October 8th, 2005
>> >> "Jocko" wrote:
>> >>
>> >> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
>> >> removable rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP ( Pro,
>> >> formatted as NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the
>> >> group's hard drive home to install software for demonstrations, etc.
>> >> If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer, configured
>> >> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
>> >> drive?
>> >> | Thanks
> "Anna" wrote:
Jocko...
>> The way this is normally done is as the following:
>> 1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its removable
>> tray) that your user group employs.
>> 2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.)
>> you clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in your
>> removable tray.
>> 3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned
>> drive while it's connected in the user group's machine and install
>> whatever programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
>> 4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply substitute
>> your removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your programs.
>> And, of course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and
>> replace it with the user group's removable drive.
>> Anna
"Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:614372E9-7EF3-4760-B601-C5A4EA18FD4D@microsoft.com...
>> Anna,
> Thanks for your reply. This is getting a little confusing! Let me
> restate the question. I would like to bring the club's drive home with me
> to install demonstration software. I want to put the club's drive in my
> home computer to do this. It would be much easier to install the software
> and make sure everything is iin order before the night of the
> presentation.. I'm sorry if my original post was unclear. In the time
> since my original post, I have tried this, and it doesn't work. Our
> user group is hosted at a tech school that has a number of computers that
> have similar motherboards, RAM, BIOS, CDROMs etc. I was able to swap our
> club's drive successfully in a couple of those computers. Doing that
> isn't going to help me, because all of these computers are at the school,
> but it did shed some light on the issue of swapping drives. If you have
> any suggestions or cures for my problem, I sure
> would like to hear them, if not, I guess we'll just have to ask Santa for
> a new laptop for the club!
> Thanks, Jocko
Jocko:
The answer is "maybe". When you say your plan is to take the club's HD home
to install it on your computer, I assume from this that you'll temporarily
connect it as a secondary drive (I'm assuming once more that the club's
drive is not bootable on your machine) in your computer and then install the
program(s) you later want to demonstrate on the club's machine.
I'm still not clear as to the club's HD that you'll be carrying to & fro. Is
it in a removable tray? Do you have the same mobile rack as the club's one
on your home computer that can accept that removable tray? But I guess
that's not really the important thing here. What is important is that in one
way or another you're going to connect the club's HD to your machine.
Here's the (potential) problem. Assuming the club's drive is connected as a
secondary drive (not the primary bootable one) on your machine - let's call
it the D: drive - depending upon the program you wish to install on the
drive you may not have an option to install that particular program on a
drive other than the C: drive. There are a fair number of programs that will
balk at being installed on a drive other than the C: one. So that's one
possible problem.
Another one is even when you're able to successfully install the program on
(your temporarily connected D: drive), you may not be able to run that
program from that drive when you later install the drive as the bootable C:
drive on your club's machine.
What it comes down to is really a trial-and-error process if you proceed
along the lines you've described (and if I understand you correctly).
Now having said all the above, let me just add this...
IF you can boot to the club's drive on your machine (and then install your
programs) and IF that drive will subsequently boot when you return it to the
club's machine to run your programs, then, of course, there's no problem.
I'm not entirely clear on your reference to the "swapping drives" issue in
terms of what precisely is involved here as it affects your objective. You
also indicate that since your original post you "tried this, and it doesn't
work". Could you be more precise and clarify what "this" is and detail the
steps you undertook?
Anna
- Posted by Jocko on October 9th, 2005
"Anna" wrote:
> >> >> "Jocko" wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
> >> >> removable rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP ( Pro,
> >> >> formatted as NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the
> >> >> group's hard drive home to install software for demonstrations, etc.
> >> >> If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer, configured
> >> >> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
> >> >> drive?
> >> >> | Thanks
>
>
> > "Anna" wrote:
> Jocko...
> >> The way this is normally done is as the following:
> >> 1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its removable
> >> tray) that your user group employs.
> >> 2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image, etc.)
> >> you clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in your
> >> removable tray.
> >> 3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned
> >> drive while it's connected in the user group's machine and install
> >> whatever programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
> >> 4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply substitute
> >> your removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your programs.
> >> And, of course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and
> >> replace it with the user group's removable drive.
> >> Anna
>
>
>
> "Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:614372E9-7EF3-4760-B601-C5A4EA18FD4D@microsoft.com...
> >> Anna,
> > Thanks for your reply. This is getting a little confusing! Let me
> > restate the question. I would like to bring the club's drive home with me
> > to install demonstration software. I want to put the club's drive in my
> > home computer to do this. It would be much easier to install the software
> > and make sure everything is iin order before the night of the
> > presentation.. I'm sorry if my original post was unclear. In the time
> > since my original post, I have tried this, and it doesn't work. Our
> > user group is hosted at a tech school that has a number of computers that
> > have similar motherboards, RAM, BIOS, CDROMs etc. I was able to swap our
> > club's drive successfully in a couple of those computers. Doing that
> > isn't going to help me, because all of these computers are at the school,
> > but it did shed some light on the issue of swapping drives. If you have
> > any suggestions or cures for my problem, I sure
> > would like to hear them, if not, I guess we'll just have to ask Santa for
> > a new laptop for the club!
> > Thanks, Jocko
>
>
> Jocko:
> The answer is "maybe". When you say your plan is to take the club's HD home
> to install it on your computer, I assume from this that you'll temporarily
> connect it as a secondary drive (I'm assuming once more that the club's
> drive is not bootable on your machine) in your computer and then install the
> program(s) you later want to demonstrate on the club's machine.
>
> I'm still not clear as to the club's HD that you'll be carrying to & fro. Is
> it in a removable tray? Do you have the same mobile rack as the club's one
> on your home computer that can accept that removable tray? But I guess
> that's not really the important thing here. What is important is that in one
> way or another you're going to connect the club's HD to your machine.
>
> Here's the (potential) problem. Assuming the club's drive is connected as a
> secondary drive (not the primary bootable one) on your machine - let's call
> it the D: drive - depending upon the program you wish to install on the
> drive you may not have an option to install that particular program on a
> drive other than the C: drive. There are a fair number of programs that will
> balk at being installed on a drive other than the C: one. So that's one
> possible problem.
>
> Another one is even when you're able to successfully install the program on
> (your temporarily connected D: drive), you may not be able to run that
> program from that drive when you later install the drive as the bootable C:
> drive on your club's machine.
>
> What it comes down to is really a trial-and-error process if you proceed
> along the lines you've described (and if I understand you correctly).
>
> Now having said all the above, let me just add this...
>
> IF you can boot to the club's drive on your machine (and then install your
> programs) and IF that drive will subsequently boot when you return it to the
> club's machine to run your programs, then, of course, there's no problem.
>
> I'm not entirely clear on your reference to the "swapping drives" issue in
> terms of what precisely is involved here as it affects your objective. You
> also indicate that since your original post you "tried this, and it doesn't
> work". Could you be more precise and clarify what "this" is and detail the
> steps you undertook?
> Anna
>
>
> Anna,
Concerning the removable rack and tray interchangeablilty, everything is ok
in that area. You ask what is "tried this and it doesn't work". This is
what I did, I brought the club's drive home, removed my home computer's C:
drive, and put the club's drive in my home computer as C:. When I do this,
the computer will not boot.
I never installed the club's drive as a secondary drive. Are you saying
that on my home computer, if I install the club's drive as a secondary drive,
(configured as primary slave) again let's call it D:, I would be able to
install applications on it, and they would (possibly) run when the drive is
put back in the club's computer as C:? Again, I have not tried this because
I thought that installing software on a secondary drive (D
would only place
the program files (I say program files because I don't know what they are
actually called) on the drive (D
, but the application would have to run
from the boot drive from which the application was installed. Maybe I'm
misunderstanding what you mean when you say "connect it as a secondary
drive". Could you clarify this a bit more for me?
Thanks, Jocko
- Posted by Anna on October 9th, 2005
>> >> >> "Jocko" wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
>> >> >> removable rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP (
>> >> >> Pro,
>> >> >> formatted as NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the
>> >> >> group's hard drive home to install software for demonstrations,
>> >> >> etc.
>> >> >> If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer,
>> >> >> configured
>> >> >> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
>> >> >> drive?
>> >> >> | Thanks
>> > "Anna" wrote:
>> Jocko...
>> >> The way this is normally done is as the following:
>> >> 1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its
>> >> removable
>> >> tray) that your user group employs.
>> >> 2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image,
>> >> etc.)
>> >> you clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in
>> >> your
>> >> removable tray.
>> >> 3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned
>> >> drive while it's connected in the user group's machine and install
>> >> whatever programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
>> >> 4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply
>> >> substitute
>> >> your removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your
>> >> programs.
>> >> And, of course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and
>> >> replace it with the user group's removable drive.
>> >> Anna
>> "Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:614372E9-7EF3-4760-B601-C5A4EA18FD4D@microsoft.com...
>> >> Anna,
>> > Thanks for your reply. This is getting a little confusing! Let me
>> > restate the question. I would like to bring the club's drive home with
>> > me
>> > to install demonstration software. I want to put the club's drive in
>> > my
>> > home computer to do this. It would be much easier to install the
>> > software
>> > and make sure everything is iin order before the night of the
>> > presentation.. I'm sorry if my original post was unclear. In the
>> > time
>> > since my original post, I have tried this, and it doesn't work. Our
>> > user group is hosted at a tech school that has a number of computers
>> > that
>> > have similar motherboards, RAM, BIOS, CDROMs etc. I was able to swap
>> > our
>> > club's drive successfully in a couple of those computers. Doing that
>> > isn't going to help me, because all of these computers are at the
>> > school,
>> > but it did shed some light on the issue of swapping drives. If you have
>> > any suggestions or cures for my problem, I sure
>> > would like to hear them, if not, I guess we'll just have to ask Santa
>> > for
>> > a new laptop for the club!
>> > Thanks, Jocko
> "Anna" wrote:
>> Jocko:
>> The answer is "maybe". When you say your plan is to take the club's HD
>> home to install it on your computer, I assume from this that you'll
>> temporarily connect it as a secondary drive (I'm assuming once more that
>> the club's drive is not bootable on your machine) in your computer and
>> then install the program(s) you later want to demonstrate on the club's
>> machine.
>>
>> I'm still not clear as to the club's HD that you'll be carrying to & fro.
>> Is >> it in a removable tray? Do you have the same mobile rack as the
>> club's one on your home computer that can accept that removable tray? But
>> I guess that's not really the important thing here. What is important is
>> that in one way or another you're going to connect the club's HD to your
>> machine.
>>
>> Here's the (potential) problem. Assuming the club's drive is connected as
>> a secondary drive (not the primary bootable one) on your machine - let's
>> call it the D: drive - depending upon the program you wish to install on
>> the drive you may not have an option to install that particular program
>> on a drive other than the C: drive. There are a fair number of programs
>> that will balk at being installed on a drive other than the C: one. So
>> that's one possible problem.
>>
>> Another one is even when you're able to successfully install the program
>> on (your temporarily connected D: drive), you may not be able to run that
>> program from that drive when you later install the drive as the bootable
>> C: drive on your club's machine.
>>
>> What it comes down to is really a trial-and-error process if you proceed
>> along the lines you've described (and if I understand you correctly).
>>
>> Now having said all the above, let me just add this...
>>
>> IF you can boot to the club's drive on your machine (and then install
>> your programs) and IF that drive will subsequently boot when you return
>> it to the club's machine to run your programs, then, of course, there's
>> no problem.
>>
>> I'm not entirely clear on your reference to the "swapping drives" issue
>> in terms of what precisely is involved here as it affects your objective.
>> You also indicate that since your original post you "tried this, and it
>> doesn't work". Could you be more precise and clarify what "this" is and
>> detail the steps you undertook?
>> Anna
"Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:0FD6213E-361E-4874-BB29-CF1FC0ECFDFB@microsoft.com...
>> Anna,
> Concerning the removable rack and tray interchangeablilty, everything is
> ok in that area. You ask what is "tried this and it doesn't work". This
> is what I did, I brought the club's drive home, removed my home computer's
> C: drive, and put the club's drive in my home computer as C:. When I do
> this, the computer will not boot.
> I never installed the club's drive as a secondary drive. Are you saying
> that on my home computer, if I install the club's drive as a secondary
> drive, (configured as primary slave) again let's call it D:, I would be
> able to install applications on it, and they would (possibly) run when the
> drive is put back in the club's computer as C:? Again, I have not tried
> this because I thought that installing software on a secondary drive (D
> would only place the program files (I say program files because I don't
> know what they are actually called) on the drive (D
, but the application
> would have to run from the boot drive from which the application was
> installed. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean when you say "connect
> it as a secondary drive". Could you clarify this a bit more for me?
> Thanks, Jocko
Jocko:
First of all, it's not surprising that the club's HD would not boot on your
machine. Sometimes you luck out and it does (even with totally different
hardware on both machines) but usually it will not. And even if it did you
most likely would encounter gross problems getting that drive to boot again
when you install it back on the club's machine.
Yes, you can install the club's drive as a secondary drive on your computer
and *hopefully* be able to install your program(s) on that secondary drive
and later run those programs back at the club's computer. You'll recall that
I told you this is a *maybe* situation for two reasons...
1. Some programs will not permit their installation on a drive other than
C:, and;
2. Even where you can install the program on this secondary drive, it might
not run when you boot to that drive on your club's machine.
But many times there are no problems. Why don't you simply try it and see
what happens?
This is the reason that I suggested in my original response to your query
that it's best to install your program(s) on the club's drive while you're
actually using that (booting) drive in the club's machine. Then, of course,
none of these potential problems will arise. But I take it for one reason or
another you're unable to do this.
Anna
- Posted by Jocko on October 10th, 2005
"Anna" wrote:
>
>
> >> >> >> "Jocko" wrote:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> | I am a member of a local user group. The group's computer has a
> >> >> >> removable rack mount hard drive as its primary master, with XP (
> >> >> >> Pro,
> >> >> >> formatted as NTFS) as the os. I would like to be able to take the
> >> >> >> group's hard drive home to install software for demonstrations,
> >> >> >> etc.
> >> >> >> If I install a similar removable rack in my home computer,
> >> >> >> configured
> >> >> >> as the primary master, would I be able to boot to the group's hard
> >> >> >> drive?
> >> >> >> | Thanks
>
>
> >> > "Anna" wrote:
> >> Jocko...
> >> >> The way this is normally done is as the following:
> >> >> 1. You have the same make & model of the mobile rack (with its
> >> >> removable
> >> >> tray) that your user group employs.
> >> >> 2. Using a disk imaging program (Norton Ghost, Acronis True Image,
> >> >> etc.)
> >> >> you clone the contents of the user group's HD to the HD residing in
> >> >> your
> >> >> removable tray.
> >> >> 3. After disconnecting the source drive, you boot up with your cloned
> >> >> drive while it's connected in the user group's machine and install
> >> >> whatever programs you plan to later access for your demonstration(s).
> >> >> 4. Now when you later give your demonstration(s), you simply
> >> >> substitute
> >> >> your removable HD in place of the user group's one and run your
> >> >> programs.
> >> >> And, of course, remove your removable tray after you're finished and
> >> >> replace it with the user group's removable drive.
> >> >> Anna
>
>
> >> "Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:614372E9-7EF3-4760-B601-C5A4EA18FD4D@microsoft.com...
> >> >> Anna,
> >> > Thanks for your reply. This is getting a little confusing! Let me
> >> > restate the question. I would like to bring the club's drive home with
> >> > me
> >> > to install demonstration software. I want to put the club's drive in
> >> > my
> >> > home computer to do this. It would be much easier to install the
> >> > software
> >> > and make sure everything is iin order before the night of the
> >> > presentation.. I'm sorry if my original post was unclear. In the
> >> > time
> >> > since my original post, I have tried this, and it doesn't work. Our
> >> > user group is hosted at a tech school that has a number of computers
> >> > that
> >> > have similar motherboards, RAM, BIOS, CDROMs etc. I was able to swap
> >> > our
> >> > club's drive successfully in a couple of those computers. Doing that
> >> > isn't going to help me, because all of these computers are at the
> >> > school,
> >> > but it did shed some light on the issue of swapping drives. If you have
> >> > any suggestions or cures for my problem, I sure
> >> > would like to hear them, if not, I guess we'll just have to ask Santa
> >> > for
> >> > a new laptop for the club!
> >> > Thanks, Jocko
>
>
> > "Anna" wrote:
> >> Jocko:
> >> The answer is "maybe". When you say your plan is to take the club's HD
> >> home to install it on your computer, I assume from this that you'll
> >> temporarily connect it as a secondary drive (I'm assuming once more that
> >> the club's drive is not bootable on your machine) in your computer and
> >> then install the program(s) you later want to demonstrate on the club's
> >> machine.
> >>
> >> I'm still not clear as to the club's HD that you'll be carrying to & fro.
> >> Is >> it in a removable tray? Do you have the same mobile rack as the
> >> club's one on your home computer that can accept that removable tray? But
> >> I guess that's not really the important thing here. What is important is
> >> that in one way or another you're going to connect the club's HD to your
> >> machine.
> >>
> >> Here's the (potential) problem. Assuming the club's drive is connected as
> >> a secondary drive (not the primary bootable one) on your machine - let's
> >> call it the D: drive - depending upon the program you wish to install on
> >> the drive you may not have an option to install that particular program
> >> on a drive other than the C: drive. There are a fair number of programs
> >> that will balk at being installed on a drive other than the C: one. So
> >> that's one possible problem.
> >>
> >> Another one is even when you're able to successfully install the program
> >> on (your temporarily connected D: drive), you may not be able to run that
> >> program from that drive when you later install the drive as the bootable
> >> C: drive on your club's machine.
> >>
> >> What it comes down to is really a trial-and-error process if you proceed
> >> along the lines you've described (and if I understand you correctly).
> >>
> >> Now having said all the above, let me just add this...
> >>
> >> IF you can boot to the club's drive on your machine (and then install
> >> your programs) and IF that drive will subsequently boot when you return
> >> it to the club's machine to run your programs, then, of course, there's
> >> no problem.
> >>
> >> I'm not entirely clear on your reference to the "swapping drives" issue
> >> in terms of what precisely is involved here as it affects your objective.
> >> You also indicate that since your original post you "tried this, and it
> >> doesn't work". Could you be more precise and clarify what "this" is and
> >> detail the steps you undertook?
> >> Anna
>
>
> "Jocko" <Jocko@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:0FD6213E-361E-4874-BB29-CF1FC0ECFDFB@microsoft.com...
> >> Anna,
> > Concerning the removable rack and tray interchangeablilty, everything is
> > ok in that area. You ask what is "tried this and it doesn't work". This
> > is what I did, I brought the club's drive home, removed my home computer's
> > C: drive, and put the club's drive in my home computer as C:. When I do
> > this, the computer will not boot.
>
> > I never installed the club's drive as a secondary drive. Are you saying
> > that on my home computer, if I install the club's drive as a secondary
> > drive, (configured as primary slave) again let's call it D:, I would be
> > able to install applications on it, and they would (possibly) run when the
> > drive is put back in the club's computer as C:? Again, I have not tried
> > this because I thought that installing software on a secondary drive (D
> > would only place the program files (I say program files because I don't
> > know what they are actually called) on the drive (D
, but the application
> > would have to run from the boot drive from which the application was
> > installed. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you mean when you say "connect
> > it as a secondary drive". Could you clarify this a bit more for me?
> > Thanks, Jocko
>
>
> Jocko:
> First of all, it's not surprising that the club's HD would not boot on your
> machine. Sometimes you luck out and it does (even with totally different
> hardware on both machines) but usually it will not. And even if it did you
> most likely would encounter gross problems getting that drive to boot again
> when you install it back on the club's machine.
>
> Yes, you can install the club's drive as a secondary drive on your computer
> and *hopefully* be able to install your program(s) on that secondary drive
> and later run those programs back at the club's computer. You'll recall that
> I told you this is a *maybe* situation for two reasons...
> 1. Some programs will not permit their installation on a drive other than
> C:, and;
> 2. Even where you can install the program on this secondary drive, it might
> not run when you boot to that drive on your club's machine.
>
> But many times there are no problems. Why don't you simply try it and see
> what happens?
>
> This is the reason that I suggested in my original response to your query
> that it's best to install your program(s) on the club's drive while you're
> actually using that (booting) drive in the club's machine. Then, of course,
> none of these potential problems will arise. But I take it for one reason or
> another you're unable to do this.
> Anna
>
>
> Anna
Hmmm, you’ve given me something to think about! Our user group meets this
Tuesday evening, I will bring the drive home with me and try what you
suggested. This wouldn’t be the first time I was dead sure something was as
it appeared at first glance, only to be enlightened by someone with more
knowledge and experience than myself.
I am able to install the software in the club’s computer at the club"s
location, but sometimes it would be easier to do it in my free time at home.
Not a big deal, but I thought by trying something new, I would learn
something new. And to that end I was successful.
Thanks for your help, and I’ll be sure to let you know ( in a few days ) how
I fared.
Jocko