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Need Help with Hyperthreading with XP Home Edition
Posted by js1662 on November 11th, 2005


I have problem with Task manager showing only one CPU window although Device
Manager shows 2 CPUs. My system is as follows:

Motherboard: Asus P4P800 Deluxe, HT enabled in BIOS
CPU: Intel 2.8G with HT
OS: XP Home Edition with SP2

I have already updated to the latest BIOS and Intel inf. I also reset the
CMOS setting. I also did a virus scanning to the computer.

What is the possible cause to the problem? Appreciate any help!

Thanks in advance!

js1662


Posted by js1662 on November 11th, 2005


Thanks for your reply!

Under View, CPU History, it shows one graph per CPU with a dot in front so I
suppose it is already set to show two graphs. Am I right?

I saw post mentioned about the ACPI. In Device Manager, under Computer, it
only shows Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC. Any clue?

js1662

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> In article <R_8df.106511$y_1.79496@edtnps89>, js1662@hotmail.com says...
>> I have problem with Task manager showing only one CPU window although
>> Device
>> Manager shows 2 CPUs. My system is as follows:

>
> Did you set the Task Manager to SHOW two graphs? (one graph per CPU)?
>
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Posted by js1662 on November 12th, 2005


Thanks again. I tried but "ACPI Multiprocessor PC" is not available.
Apparently Multi-CPU Kernel is not available for XP Home Edition. It seems
like I have to upgrade to XP Pro if I have to use Hyperthreading. I have
seem conflicting information about XP Home suppose HT, even Intel's web site
said that XP Home support HT, but XP Home doesn't support Multi-CPU. It is
funny that it is supported but can't be used.

js1662

"Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
news:WKbdf.201110$lI5.106174@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
> In article <iD9df.106562$y_1.79246@edtnps89>, js1662@hotmail.com says...
>> Thanks for your reply!
>>
>> Under View, CPU History, it shows one graph per CPU with a dot in front
>> so I
>> suppose it is already set to show two graphs. Am I right?
>>
>> I saw post mentioned about the ACPI. In Device Manager, under Computer,
>> it
>> only shows Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC. Any
>> clue?

>
> That means you don't have the Multi-CPU kernel installed. If you are
> brave you can try and manually install it - you would right click,
> select UPDATE DRIVER, then follow through to select the "ACPI
> Multiprocessor PC" (you may have to pick "Don't search. I will choose
> the driver to install).
>
> Be aware, this is not a MS Approved method.
>
> You can also tell the Device Manager to RESCAN DEVICES for changes and
> see if it does it automatically.
>
>
>
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Posted by Jason Tsang on November 12th, 2005


XP Home supports Hyperthreaded processors, as it is 1 physical processor,
but has 2 logical processors within it. This configuration does not require
the multiprocessor kernel.

XP Home does NOT support multiple physical processors. HT is not MP, that's
why it won't use the Multiple Processor kernel.

--
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http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx

"js1662" <js1662@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:f0gdf.139104$Io.84963@clgrps13...
> Thanks again. I tried but "ACPI Multiprocessor PC" is not available.
> Apparently Multi-CPU Kernel is not available for XP Home Edition. It
> seems like I have to upgrade to XP Pro if I have to use Hyperthreading. I
> have seem conflicting information about XP Home suppose HT, even Intel's
> web site said that XP Home support HT, but XP Home doesn't support
> Multi-CPU. It is funny that it is supported but can't be used.
>
> js1662
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:WKbdf.201110$lI5.106174@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
>> In article <iD9df.106562$y_1.79246@edtnps89>, js1662@hotmail.com says...
>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>>
>>> Under View, CPU History, it shows one graph per CPU with a dot in front
>>> so I
>>> suppose it is already set to show two graphs. Am I right?
>>>
>>> I saw post mentioned about the ACPI. In Device Manager, under Computer,
>>> it
>>> only shows Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC. Any
>>> clue?

>>
>> That means you don't have the Multi-CPU kernel installed. If you are
>> brave you can try and manually install it - you would right click,
>> select UPDATE DRIVER, then follow through to select the "ACPI
>> Multiprocessor PC" (you may have to pick "Don't search. I will choose
>> the driver to install).
>>
>> Be aware, this is not a MS Approved method.
>>
>> You can also tell the Device Manager to RESCAN DEVICES for changes and
>> see if it does it automatically.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> remove 999 in order to email me

>
>



Posted by js1662 on November 12th, 2005


Thank you so much for the explanation. Hence what is wrong with Task
Manager showing only one CPU window? Should I reinstall XP Home as some
people suggested?

js1662

"Jason Tsang" <jason-onlineDEL@ETEmvps.org> wrote in message
news:eQi3r025FHA.3432@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> XP Home supports Hyperthreaded processors, as it is 1 physical processor,
> but has 2 logical processors within it. This configuration does not
> require the multiprocessor kernel.
>
> XP Home does NOT support multiple physical processors. HT is not MP,
> that's why it won't use the Multiple Processor kernel.
>
> --
> Jason Tsang - Microsoft MVP
>
> Find out about the MS MVP Program -
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx
>
> "js1662" <js1662@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:f0gdf.139104$Io.84963@clgrps13...
>> Thanks again. I tried but "ACPI Multiprocessor PC" is not available.
>> Apparently Multi-CPU Kernel is not available for XP Home Edition. It
>> seems like I have to upgrade to XP Pro if I have to use Hyperthreading.
>> I have seem conflicting information about XP Home suppose HT, even
>> Intel's web site said that XP Home support HT, but XP Home doesn't
>> support Multi-CPU. It is funny that it is supported but can't be used.
>>
>> js1662
>>
>> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
>> news:WKbdf.201110$lI5.106174@tornado.ohiordc.rr.co m...
>>> In article <iD9df.106562$y_1.79246@edtnps89>, js1662@hotmail.com says...
>>>> Thanks for your reply!
>>>>
>>>> Under View, CPU History, it shows one graph per CPU with a dot in front
>>>> so I
>>>> suppose it is already set to show two graphs. Am I right?
>>>>
>>>> I saw post mentioned about the ACPI. In Device Manager, under
>>>> Computer, it
>>>> only shows Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC. Any
>>>> clue?
>>>
>>> That means you don't have the Multi-CPU kernel installed. If you are
>>> brave you can try and manually install it - you would right click,
>>> select UPDATE DRIVER, then follow through to select the "ACPI
>>> Multiprocessor PC" (you may have to pick "Don't search. I will choose
>>> the driver to install).
>>>
>>> Be aware, this is not a MS Approved method.
>>>
>>> You can also tell the Device Manager to RESCAN DEVICES for changes and
>>> see if it does it automatically.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>>> remove 999 in order to email me

>>
>>

>
>



Posted by js1662 on November 13th, 2005


Hi, I found the following link that suggested a workaround to re-install MP
Kernel. Should I do that for my XP Home? Will that corrupt my OS if XP
Home doesn't support MP Kernel?

http://mindfulmusings.net/weblog/200...g-motherboard/

js1662

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> In article <zeudf.122253$yS6.44137@clgrps12>, js1662@hotmail.com says...
>> > XP Home does NOT support multiple physical processors. HT is not MP,
>> > that's why it won't use the Multiple Processor kernel.

>
> My P4's are all hyper threaded, running XP Prof, and they all use the MP
> Kernel, just the same as my Dual and Quad CPU systems.
>
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Posted by js1662 on November 15th, 2005


Thanks for Mark's recommendation as given in the link in my previous post,
my PC is now normal. Computer in Device Manager now display ACPI
Multiprocessor PC and CPU Usage History of Task Manager is now displaying 2
CPU windows.

To summarize, XP Home do support Hyperthreading although it only support 1
physical CPU. To use Hyperthreading, enable HT in BIOS so that OS can
detect the CPU and install the correct HAL during OS installation. In case
the MP Kernel was not installed, you can either repair it by repair
installation of the OS again or follow the recommendation from Mark.

As many other people said, you don't need XP Pro unless you need the extra
networking and security capability that XP Home doesn't has. Of course you
will need XP Pro if you have a multi-processor motherboard running two
physical processors.

Bye!

js1662

"js1662" <js1662@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OtDdf.195564$ir4.113681@edtnps90...
> Hi, I found the following link that suggested a workaround to re-install
> MP Kernel. Should I do that for my XP Home? Will that corrupt my OS if
> XP Home doesn't support MP Kernel?
>
> http://mindfulmusings.net/weblog/200...g-motherboard/
>
> js1662
>
> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> news:qIudf.201834$lI5.98997@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com ...
>> In article <zeudf.122253$yS6.44137@clgrps12>, js1662@hotmail.com says
>>> > XP Home does NOT support multiple physical processors. HT is not MP,
>>> > that's why it won't use the Multiple Processor kernel.

>>
>> My P4's are all hyper threaded, running XP Prof, and they all use the MP
>> Kernel, just the same as my Dual and Quad CPU systems.
>>
>> --
>>
>> spam999free@rrohio.com
>> remove 999 in order to email me

>
>




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