Hi Bob,

Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
it in order to retrieve your data.

Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
you may be able to save you data this way.

What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
actualy its just corupt software.

Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
a few things first.

The Woodpile

"Bob_r" wrote:

> Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
> pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
> secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
> letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
> or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
> Thanks Bob

Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
Thanks Bob

"The Woodpile" wrote:

> Hi Bob,
>
> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
> going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
> it in order to retrieve your data.
>
> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
> sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
> you may be able to save you data this way.
>
> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
> of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
> actualy its just corupt software.
>
> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
> a few things first.
>
> The Woodpile
>
> "Bob_r" wrote:
>
> > Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
> > pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
> > secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
> > letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
> > or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
> > Thanks Bob

I feel for yah Bob. This doesnt look good. HeHe. Did you try praying over it?

I dont think your going to be able to retrieve it.

They do make those programs that can retrieve data by looking at each sector
seprately, but im not sure if it will do you much good. Plus is it worth
spending the money to find out if its even going to work.

Well have a good weekend. Hope things work out for yah.

The Woodpile


"Bob_r" wrote:

> Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
> not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
> data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
> assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
> Thanks Bob
>
> "The Woodpile" wrote:
>
> > Hi Bob,
> >
> > Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
> > going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
> > it in order to retrieve your data.
> >
> > Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
> > sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
> > you may be able to save you data this way.
> >
> > What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
> > of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
> > actualy its just corupt software.
> >
> > Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
> > a few things first.
> >
> > The Woodpile
> >
> > "Bob_r" wrote:
> >
> > > Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
> > > pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
> > > secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
> > > letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
> > > or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
> > > Thanks Bob

Bob_r wrote:

> Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
> not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
> data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
> assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
> Thanks Bob

I agree with your conclusion - your data is there, you just can't get at it.

Your best bet is to take an image of the drive using Drive Image or
similar. Drive Image does not require a drive letter, it will see any
drive the BIOS sees. You would probably have the same problem if you
restored the entire image to another drive, but at a minimum you should
be able to restore individual files and folders from the image to
another drive.

In your situation I would use Drive Image 7 or Ghost 9 (essentially the
same program, Symantec re-badged Drive Image when they bought
Powerquest). I would be very surprised if you could not recover almost
all your data.

Actually, I highly recommend Drive Image 7/Ghost 9 - it allows you to
schedule disk image backups while XP is running, so you can set your
system to back itself up to another drive (or a network share) regularly
with no manual intervention required.

Sunny

> "The Woodpile" wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Bob,
>>
>> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
>>going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
>>it in order to retrieve your data.
>>
>> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
>>sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
>>you may be able to save you data this way.
>>
>> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
>>of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
>>actualy its just corupt software.
>>
>> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
>>a few things first.
>>
>> The Woodpile
>>
>>"Bob_r" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
>>>pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
>>>secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
>>>letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
>>>or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
>>>Thanks Bob

Bob_r wrote:
> Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
> not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
> data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
> assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
> Thanks Bob
>

I had problems with a failing drive showing bad clusters. Ghost would
not backup the drive because of the bad clusters. Using Spinrite 6
fixed the problems long enough for me to use Ghost to clone the drive to
a new one with no data lost. I do not know if the data on the drive is
worth the price of Spinrite, but for me it was. I have used Spinrite
since the days of DOS and it has proven it's worth several times.


> "The Woodpile" wrote:
>
>
>>Hi Bob,
>>
>> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
>>going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
>>it in order to retrieve your data.
>>
>> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
>>sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
>>you may be able to save you data this way.
>>
>> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
>>of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
>>actualy its just corupt software.
>>
>> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
>>a few things first.
>>
>> The Woodpile
>>
>>"Bob_r" wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
>>>pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
>>>secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
>>>letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
>>>or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
>>>Thanks Bob

I like the Ghost idea and I have the program. Can you selectively restore
only part of the image? What about Partition Magic, I have not checked into
that yet.
Thanks Bob

"Sunny" wrote:

>
>
> Bob_r wrote:
>
> > Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
> > not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
> > data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
> > assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
> > Thanks Bob
>
> I agree with your conclusion - your data is there, you just can't get at it.
>
> Your best bet is to take an image of the drive using Drive Image or
> similar. Drive Image does not require a drive letter, it will see any
> drive the BIOS sees. You would probably have the same problem if you
> restored the entire image to another drive, but at a minimum you should
> be able to restore individual files and folders from the image to
> another drive.
>
> In your situation I would use Drive Image 7 or Ghost 9 (essentially the
> same program, Symantec re-badged Drive Image when they bought
> Powerquest). I would be very surprised if you could not recover almost
> all your data.
>
> Actually, I highly recommend Drive Image 7/Ghost 9 - it allows you to
> schedule disk image backups while XP is running, so you can set your
> system to back itself up to another drive (or a network share) regularly
> with no manual intervention required.
>
> Sunny
>
> > "The Woodpile" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
> >>going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
> >>it in order to retrieve your data.
> >>
> >> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
> >>sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
> >>you may be able to save you data this way.
> >>
> >> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
> >>of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
> >>actualy its just corupt software.
> >>
> >> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
> >>a few things first.
> >>
> >> The Woodpile
> >>
> >>"Bob_r" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
> >>>pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
> >>>secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
> >>>letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
> >>>or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
> >>>Thanks Bob
>

Another good idea! I have SpinRite but I do not know how old it is. Use to
use it alot in the old days (7 years ago).
Thanks, I'll have to dig into that also.
Bob

"Michael W. Ryder" wrote:

> Bob_r wrote:
> > Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
> > not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
> > data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
> > assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
> > Thanks Bob
> >
>
> I had problems with a failing drive showing bad clusters. Ghost would
> not backup the drive because of the bad clusters. Using Spinrite 6
> fixed the problems long enough for me to use Ghost to clone the drive to
> a new one with no data lost. I do not know if the data on the drive is
> worth the price of Spinrite, but for me it was. I have used Spinrite
> since the days of DOS and it has proven it's worth several times.
>
>
> > "The Woodpile" wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi Bob,
> >>
> >> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
> >>going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
> >>it in order to retrieve your data.
> >>
> >> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
> >>sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
> >>you may be able to save you data this way.
> >>
> >> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
> >>of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
> >>actualy its just corupt software.
> >>
> >> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
> >>a few things first.
> >>
> >> The Woodpile
> >>
> >>"Bob_r" wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
> >>>pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
> >>>secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
> >>>letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
> >>>or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
> >>>Thanks Bob
>

Bob_r wrote:

> I like the Ghost idea and I have the program. Can you selectively restore
> only part of the image?

DI 7/Ghost 9 supports selective restore of files and folders via it's
GUI, or you can mount the disk image and use windows explorer.

> What about Partition Magic, I have not checked into that yet.

It's arguably best of breed for moving partitions around, but not
relevant to your current problem.

Sunny

> Thanks Bob
>
> "Sunny" wrote:
>
>
>>
>>Bob_r wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Nope, nope and nope. HDTune shows the bad cluster. Recovery Console did
>>>not work, as in chkdsk, fixmbr etc. See my prior answer to OMS. I know the
>>>data is still there but computer will not let me at it. The OS will not
>>>assign a letter to any of the bad drives volumes. Just aggravating.
>>>Thanks Bob
>>
>>I agree with your conclusion - your data is there, you just can't get at it.
>>
>>Your best bet is to take an image of the drive using Drive Image or
>>similar. Drive Image does not require a drive letter, it will see any
>>drive the BIOS sees. You would probably have the same problem if you
>>restored the entire image to another drive, but at a minimum you should
>>be able to restore individual files and folders from the image to
>>another drive.
>>
>>In your situation I would use Drive Image 7 or Ghost 9 (essentially the
>>same program, Symantec re-badged Drive Image when they bought
>>Powerquest). I would be very surprised if you could not recover almost
>>all your data.
>>
>>Actually, I highly recommend Drive Image 7/Ghost 9 - it allows you to
>>schedule disk image backups while XP is running, so you can set your
>>system to back itself up to another drive (or a network share) regularly
>>with no manual intervention required.
>>
>>Sunny
>>
>>
>>>"The Woodpile" wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Bob,
>>>>
>>>> Is the drive still bootable in either regular mode or safe mode? Im
>>>>going to bet it isnt but if by chance it is I would recomend that you boot to
>>>>it in order to retrieve your data.
>>>>
>>>> Also have you tryed reparing the install. Its possible that the bad
>>>>sector is not in a system location. If you could repair it and get back in
>>>>you may be able to save you data this way.
>>>>
>>>> What about running chkdsk in recovery console? Maybe it will take care
>>>>of the bad sector for you. I have seen windows report a sector as bad when
>>>>actualy its just corupt software.
>>>>
>>>> Just some ideas. Id hate to see you blow your data away without trying
>>>>a few things first.
>>>>
>>>> The Woodpile
>>>>
>>>>"Bob_r" wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Trying to install a SATA hard drive that is already partitioned. OS is XP
>>>>>pro. The hard drive was originally the primary but is now installed as the
>>>>>secondary. Device manager see's it. In Disk Manager it shows with no drive
>>>>>letter for either of the two partitions. Under properties you can not change
>>>>>or assign a drive letter. Any ideas of what I am doing wrong?
>>>>>Thanks Bob
>>

If you really wish to restore lost partitions I recommend Active@
partition recovery utility. This is an extremely powerful tool that
worked great for me and was always able to bring my dead partitions
back to life.

http://www.partition-recovery.com/

Hi Bob,

This might be a long shot but do you have a friend with an SATA connection
to try your HD on?

OMS
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> If you really wish to restore lost partitions I recommend Active@
> partition recovery utility. This is an extremely powerful tool that
> worked great for me and was always able to bring my dead partitions
> back to life.
>
> http://www.partition-recovery.com/
>