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Cannot create boot floppy
Posted by Charles Lavin on October 13th, 2005


Hi --

I have a Windows XP computer. The PC's owner tried to fix "a virus" by
reinstalling Windows using the PC's recovery CD. He wound up with a machine
that spits out "NTLDR missing" when switched on and will not boot.

I want to see what this man did before I do anything. I've been trying to
create a boot floppy to see if I can use it to start into Windows.

I've followed the instructions in KB 305595 to create a boot floppy from a
Windows XP box, with boot.ini, ntldr and ntdetect.com. However, when I try
to boot the PC using this floppy, all I get is:

Disk error
Press any key to restart

I get this same error if I try to boot the PC with a blank floppy that was
formatted under Windows XP. If I try to boot the PC with a blank MS-DOS
formatted floppy, I get the familiar "Non-system disk or disk error" error.
And if I try to boot the PC using a bootable MS-DOS floppy, the PC boots
into DOS. So I'm sure that the floppy drive is working properly and that I
have no BIOS issues.

I've enabled the System attributes on the files on the floppy -- no help.

Why won't my boot floppy work? Is there some magical step I've forgotten to
take?

Thanks,
CL



Posted by Li'l Roberto on October 13th, 2005



If your DOS boot diskette is setup correctly it will get you to an A: prompt, but remember MS-DOS cannot read NTFS, I think your problem is linked to the OEMs recovery methodology.
Not knowing what the machine is it's hard to be more specific, but some, EG Packard Bell's require a dedicated diskette to boot into the hidden recovery partition [FAT32] as part of the process, others just use a recovery CD.

rgds
Robert




"Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote in message news:ugqkyG6zFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi --
>
> I have a Windows XP computer. The PC's owner tried to fix "a virus" by
> reinstalling Windows using the PC's recovery CD. He wound up with a machine
> that spits out "NTLDR missing" when switched on and will not boot.
>
> I want to see what this man did before I do anything. I've been trying to
> create a boot floppy to see if I can use it to start into Windows.
>
> I've followed the instructions in KB 305595 to create a boot floppy from a
> Windows XP box, with boot.ini, ntldr and ntdetect.com. However, when I try
> to boot the PC using this floppy, all I get is:
>
> Disk error
> Press any key to restart
>
> I get this same error if I try to boot the PC with a blank floppy that was
> formatted under Windows XP. If I try to boot the PC with a blank MS-DOS
> formatted floppy, I get the familiar "Non-system disk or disk error" error.
> And if I try to boot the PC using a bootable MS-DOS floppy, the PC boots
> into DOS. So I'm sure that the floppy drive is working properly and that I
> have no BIOS issues.
>
> I've enabled the System attributes on the files on the floppy -- no help.
>
> Why won't my boot floppy work? Is there some magical step I've forgotten to
> take?
>
> Thanks,
> CL
>
>
>

Posted by Peter Foldes on October 13th, 2005


http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm

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"Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote in message news:ugqkyG6zFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi --
>
> I have a Windows XP computer. The PC's owner tried to fix "a virus" by
> reinstalling Windows using the PC's recovery CD. He wound up with a machine
> that spits out "NTLDR missing" when switched on and will not boot.
>
> I want to see what this man did before I do anything. I've been trying to
> create a boot floppy to see if I can use it to start into Windows.
>
> I've followed the instructions in KB 305595 to create a boot floppy from a
> Windows XP box, with boot.ini, ntldr and ntdetect.com. However, when I try
> to boot the PC using this floppy, all I get is:
>
> Disk error
> Press any key to restart
>
> I get this same error if I try to boot the PC with a blank floppy that was
> formatted under Windows XP. If I try to boot the PC with a blank MS-DOS
> formatted floppy, I get the familiar "Non-system disk or disk error" error.
> And if I try to boot the PC using a bootable MS-DOS floppy, the PC boots
> into DOS. So I'm sure that the floppy drive is working properly and that I
> have no BIOS issues.
>
> I've enabled the System attributes on the files on the floppy -- no help.
>
> Why won't my boot floppy work? Is there some magical step I've forgotten to
> take?
>
> Thanks,
> CL
>
>
>

Posted by Kelly on October 13th, 2005


Tons of info, Charles. It depends.....good luck!
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=NTLDR+is+missing

--

All the Best,
Kelly (MS-MVP)

Troubleshooting Windows XP
http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com

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"Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote in message
news:udFeMz7zFHA.1968@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks for the info. But I'm just trying to get around the machine's
> "NTLDR missing" error for the moment. I'm hoping that by providing the
> missing NTLDR on a Windows XP boot disk, the PC will then continue to boot
> off of whatever is on the hard drive.
>
> When I created the Windows XP boot diskette using the instructions in that
> MS Knowledge Base article, the PC wouldn't boot as advertised.
>
> When I try to boot off a normal DOS boot diskette, the PC boots to DOS.
> Granted, that's not of much help to me, except to show that the floppy
> disk drive is working properly and that the BIOS is properly set up to
> boot from floppy.
>
> Thanks again,
> CL
>
> "Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
> news:OWIfLz6zFHA.1924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>
> If your DOS boot diskette is setup correctly it will get you to an A:
> prompt, but remember MS-DOS cannot read NTFS, I think your problem
> is linked to the OEMs recovery methodology.
> Not knowing what the machine is it's hard to be more specific, but
> some, EG Packard Bell's require a dedicated diskette to boot into
> the hidden recovery partition [FAT32] as part of the process, others
> just use a recovery CD.
>
> rgds
> Robert
>
>
>
>
> "Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote in message
> news:ugqkyG6zFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> Hi --
>>
>> I have a Windows XP computer. The PC's owner tried to fix "a virus" by
>> reinstalling Windows using the PC's recovery CD. He wound up with a
>> machine
>> that spits out "NTLDR missing" when switched on and will not boot.
>>
>> I want to see what this man did before I do anything. I've been trying to
>> create a boot floppy to see if I can use it to start into Windows.
>>
>> I've followed the instructions in KB 305595 to create a boot floppy from
>> a
>> Windows XP box, with boot.ini, ntldr and ntdetect.com. However, when I
>> try
>> to boot the PC using this floppy, all I get is:
>>
>> Disk error
>> Press any key to restart
>>
>> I get this same error if I try to boot the PC with a blank floppy that
>> was
>> formatted under Windows XP. If I try to boot the PC with a blank MS-DOS
>> formatted floppy, I get the familiar "Non-system disk or disk error"
>> error.
>> And if I try to boot the PC using a bootable MS-DOS floppy, the PC boots
>> into DOS. So I'm sure that the floppy drive is working properly and that
>> I
>> have no BIOS issues.
>>
>> I've enabled the System attributes on the files on the floppy -- no help.
>>
>> Why won't my boot floppy work? Is there some magical step I've forgotten
>> to
>> take?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> CL
>>
>>
>>

>



Posted by Charles Lavin on October 13th, 2005


Thanks for the info. But I'm just trying to get around the machine's "NTLDR
missing" error for the moment. I'm hoping that by providing the missing
NTLDR on a Windows XP boot disk, the PC will then continue to boot off of
whatever is on the hard drive.

When I created the Windows XP boot diskette using the instructions in that
MS Knowledge Base article, the PC wouldn't boot as advertised.

When I try to boot off a normal DOS boot diskette, the PC boots to DOS.
Granted, that's not of much help to me, except to show that the floppy disk
drive is working properly and that the BIOS is properly set up to boot from
floppy.

Thanks again,
CL

"Li'l Roberto" <whoisit@nospam.invalid.net> wrote in message
news:OWIfLz6zFHA.1924@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

If your DOS boot diskette is setup correctly it will get you to an A:
prompt, but remember MS-DOS cannot read NTFS, I think your problem is
linked to the OEMs recovery methodology.
Not knowing what the machine is it's hard to be more specific, but
some, EG Packard Bell's require a dedicated diskette to boot into
the hidden recovery partition [FAT32] as part of the process, others
just use a recovery CD.

rgds
Robert




"Charles Lavin" <x@x.x> wrote in message
news:ugqkyG6zFHA.2932@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi --
>
> I have a Windows XP computer. The PC's owner tried to fix "a virus" by
> reinstalling Windows using the PC's recovery CD. He wound up with a
> machine
> that spits out "NTLDR missing" when switched on and will not boot.
>
> I want to see what this man did before I do anything. I've been trying to
> create a boot floppy to see if I can use it to start into Windows.
>
> I've followed the instructions in KB 305595 to create a boot floppy from a
> Windows XP box, with boot.ini, ntldr and ntdetect.com. However, when I try
> to boot the PC using this floppy, all I get is:
>
> Disk error
> Press any key to restart
>
> I get this same error if I try to boot the PC with a blank floppy that was
> formatted under Windows XP. If I try to boot the PC with a blank MS-DOS
> formatted floppy, I get the familiar "Non-system disk or disk error"
> error.
> And if I try to boot the PC using a bootable MS-DOS floppy, the PC boots
> into DOS. So I'm sure that the floppy drive is working properly and that I
> have no BIOS issues.
>
> I've enabled the System attributes on the files on the floppy -- no help.
>
> Why won't my boot floppy work? Is there some magical step I've forgotten
> to
> take?
>
> Thanks,
> CL
>
>
>



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