Hi all,

My machine is running preeeeeetty sloooooow these days. It has a 2.6 gig
processor so it should be doing much better than it is.

I try to keep up with housekeeping like registry and disk cleaning but
the problem I'm having is with the defragmenting. When I do it the
utility gives the old college try and gets just so far and then says
it's finished.

If I then have it "Analyze" the disk it says "You should defragment this
volume. (again)

For an image of the resulting graph see
http://picasaweb.google.com/ferrycap...10997487569074

Wha hoppen, and how can I fix the rascal ??

Thanks very much,

Perk (:>)

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Looking at your picture, it is likely that the fragmented files you are seeing are
the Windows Page File and the Windows Registry files, which are not moved by Defrag.

It's also possible that some are accessible large files that can't be defragmented
because there is not enough contiguous free space available on the drive for Defrag
to work with for a particular file it needs to move.

For defragging the Registry and Page File, use PageDefrag:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/s.../bb897426.aspx

See also:

Why won't some files defrag?
http://ask-leo.com/why_wont_some_files_defrag.html

Defragmentation - Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defragmentation

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"Perk" <perkins@waverunner.net> wrote in message
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How much free disk space is available, if it's 15% or less this could be
part of the problems>

JS

"Perk" <perkins@waverunner.net> wrote in message
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On Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:58:49 -0700, Perk <perkins@waverunner.net>
wrote:


Exactly what such housekeeping do you do? Be aware that Registry
cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the registry isn't
needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and don't use any
registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and what vendors of
registry cleaning software try to convince you of, having unused
registry entries doesn't really hurt you.

The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner erroneously
removing an entry you need is far greater than any potential benefit
it may have.

If you've been using a registry cleaner, I doubt that it's the cause
of a slowdown in performance (it's more likely to have a much more
severe result), but still, I would strongly advice that you
discontinue its use immediately. If it hasn't caused you a severe
problem, you've been lucky so far, but don't push your luck.




I wouldn't worry about it. I doubt if fragmentation is your
performance problem. There are many possible reasons for poor
performance, but among the most common these days is malware
infestation. You don't say anything about anti-virus and anti-spyware
programs you run, but you might want to begin troubleshooting by
making sure you are malware-free. I recommend that you go to MVP
Malke's malware removal site at
http://www.elephantboycomputers.com/...moving_Malware
and following the instructions there.

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Perk

I would be interested in seeing a Disk Defragmenter report. Open Disk
Defragmenter and click on Analyse. Select View Report and
click on Save As and Save. Now find VolumeC.txt in your My Documents
Folder and post a copy. Do this before running Disk Defragmenter as it
is more informative. This will help us see how your disk space is being
used.

Glee has commented on the pagefile. From what I can see from the image
you have posted the pagefile is not contiguous. The pagefile shows as
green and unmoveable. You can get other unmoveable files so what you see
may not only be the pagefile. Green in your image is not sharp so it is
not easy to see exactly how many fragments there are. The Disk
Defragmenter Report, both parts can clarify what needs to be done,

Select Start, All Programs, Accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp to
Empty your Recycle Bin and Remove Temporary Internet Files. Also
select Start, All Programs, accessories, System Tools, Disk CleanUp,
More Options, System Restore and remove all but the latest System
Restore point. Run Disk Defragmenter.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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Perk wrote:

2008 version of Diskeeper defrags even with lesser free space, if thats
the issue. It also defrags the MFT and Paging file.


Gerry;3842092 Wrote:

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Diskeeper 2008 claims to be able to defragment with as little as 1% free
space. What's the point of defragmenting when there is that little free
space. The system needs much more free space to run properly so
defragmenting in that scenario achieves very little.

Diskeeper 2008 requires 38 mb of disk space, which would otherwise be
available for other purposes.

Your claim that Diskeeper 2008 does more than the Microsoft Disk
Defragmenter with regard to the MFT are questionable. Using either you
end up with 2 perhaps 3 fragments so where's the difference?

Many users consider defragmenting the pagefile is not worthwhile. It is
a waste of time. I was on advising on how to achieve a contiguous
pagefile to help slow down fragmentation of other files.

Diskeeper 2008 costs nearly $US30.

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Hope this helps.

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