I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
know when my friends come online.

I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.

I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
it won't stop.

Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING unchecked.
But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
By.

Is there some way to get peace?

Start>Run>type MSCONFIG and click OK
Click the Startup tab>uncheck msmsgs>Apply>Close>reboot
--
XP - WNP
Today is the first day of the
rest of your life.


"Uriel" wrote:

> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
> know when my friends come online.
>
> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
> it won't stop.
>
> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING unchecked.
> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
> By.
>
> Is there some way to get peace?
>
>
>

"Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote:

>I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
>know when my friends come online.
>
>I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
>I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
>it won't stop.
>
>Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING unchecked.
>But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
>By.
>
>Is there some way to get peace?
>

Open Outlook Express.
Select Tools - Options.
In the General (top) section make sure the checkbox for "Automatically
log on to Windows Messenger" is clear.
Click on Apply and OK as needed to exit.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

Thanks, but there is no "msmsgs" there.

There are some other things -- e.g. AOLHostManager, AOLSP Scheduler. I don't
use AOL. Any reason for that to be there?

What happens when you remove these things?

There's also one with a blank under the headings Item and Command.

"Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:900D0138-11B6-41D7-AF0D-021BB4842A33@microsoft.com...
Start>Run>type MSCONFIG and click OK
Click the Startup tab>uncheck msmsgs>Apply>Close>reboot
--
XP - WNP
Today is the first day of the
rest of your life.


"Uriel" wrote:

> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
> know when my friends come online.
>
> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info
> but
> it won't stop.
>
> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
> unchecked.
> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's
> Stand
> By.
>
> Is there some way to get peace?
>
>
>

Thanks but that's already unchecked.

"Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:sf17o1lcccmr5mq5ikhm5ijf6r8daqebi0@4ax.com...
"Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote:

>I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
>know when my friends come online.
>
>I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
>I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
>it won't stop.
>
>Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
>unchecked.
>But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
>By.
>
>Is there some way to get peace?
>

Open Outlook Express.
Select Tools - Options.
In the General (top) section make sure the checkbox for "Automatically
log on to Windows Messenger" is clear.
Click on Apply and OK as needed to exit.

Good luck

Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
--
Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
On-Line Help Computer Service
http://onlinehelp.bc.ca

Uriel wrote:
> Thanks but that's already unchecked.
>
> "Ron Martell" <ron.martell@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:sf17o1lcccmr5mq5ikhm5ijf6r8daqebi0@4ax.com...
> "Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote:
>
>
>>I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
>>know when my friends come online.
>>
>>I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>>
>>I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
>>it won't stop.
>>
>>Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
>>unchecked.
>>But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
>>By.
>>
>>Is there some way to get peace?
>>
>
>
> Open Outlook Express.
> Select Tools - Options.
> In the General (top) section make sure the checkbox for "Automatically
> log on to Windows Messenger" is clear.
> Click on Apply and OK as needed to exit.
>
> Good luck
>
> Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
Try lavasoft Ad-aware addin to stop Windows Messenger - maybe it will do
the trick?

To disable "Windows Messenger":

Open "Windows Messenger" and from the Toolbar select
Tools > Options > Preferences and uncheck:

"Run this program when Windows starts" and
"Allow this program to run in the background", then
click OK.

Next, open Outlook Express and from the Toolbar select
Tools > Options and under the General tab uncheck
"Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" and click
APPLY.

Alternative:

Prevent Windows Messenger from automatically running
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_d...er_autorun.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Uriel" wrote:

| I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
| know when my friends come online.
|
| I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
|
| I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
| it won't stop.
|
| Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING unchecked.
| But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
| By.
|
| Is there some way to get peace?

I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
Preferences.

I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in Outlook
Express.

I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps they
want on their machines?

"Carey Frisch [MVP]" <cnfrisch@nospamgmail.com> wrote in message
news:O0RqTP77FHA.444@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
To disable "Windows Messenger":

Open "Windows Messenger" and from the Toolbar select
Tools > Options > Preferences and uncheck:

"Run this program when Windows starts" and
"Allow this program to run in the background", then
click OK.

Next, open Outlook Express and from the Toolbar select
Tools > Options and under the General tab uncheck
"Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" and click
APPLY.

Alternative:

Prevent Windows Messenger from automatically running
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_d...er_autorun.htm

--
Carey Frisch
Microsoft MVP
Windows - Shell/User
Microsoft Community Newsgroups
news://msnews.microsoft.com/

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Uriel" wrote:

| I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
| know when my friends come online.
|
| I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
|
| I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info
but
| it won't stop.
|
| Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
unchecked.
| But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's
Stand
| By.
|
| Is there some way to get peace?

Forgive me Uriel,

My post was along the lines of easiest options.

I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily,
safely and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go
skew-wiff if introduced to other solutions.

Uriel wrote:
> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
> Preferences.
>
> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in Outlook
> Express.
>
> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps they
> want on their machines?
>

If you have these AOL files in your startup, then it would seem that AOL has
been installed, at some stage.
Perhaps if this was a new PC it was supplied with an AOL service that merely
required activating. or perhaps there was a shortcut that was inadvertantely
activated.


"Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:OAdZ1x67FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, but there is no "msmsgs" there.
>
> There are some other things -- e.g. AOLHostManager, AOLSP Scheduler. I
> don't
> use AOL. Any reason for that to be there?
>
> What happens when you remove these things?
>
> There's also one with a blank under the headings Item and Command.
>
> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:900D0138-11B6-41D7-AF0D-021BB4842A33@microsoft.com...
> Start>Run>type MSCONFIG and click OK
> Click the Startup tab>uncheck msmsgs>Apply>Close>reboot
> --
> XP - WNP
> Today is the first day of the
> rest of your life.
>
>
> "Uriel" wrote:
>
>> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
>> know when my friends come online.
>>
>> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>>
>> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info
>> but
>> it won't stop.
>>
>> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
>> unchecked.
>> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's
>> Stand
>> By.
>>
>> Is there some way to get peace?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

to get rid of messenger, open control panel, add remove programs, add remove
windows components, uncheck windows messenger, next, finish. No more
windows messenger.



"deebs" <deebs@xyzlaernot999.bogus> wrote in message
news:u3c7ko77FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Forgive me Uriel,
>
> My post was along the lines of easiest options.
>
> I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily, safely
> and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go skew-wiff
> if introduced to other solutions.
>
> Uriel wrote:
>> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
>> Preferences.
>>
>> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in
>> Outlook Express.
>>
>> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
>> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps
>> they want on their machines?
>>

PS if you decide you want it back, put the check mark back.


"Chuck Burmester" <chuckburmester@cox.net> wrote in message
news:v9Ogf.42679$2k5.41532@dukeread09...
> to get rid of messenger, open control panel, add remove programs, add
> remove windows components, uncheck windows messenger, next, finish. No
> more windows messenger.
>
>
>
> "deebs" <deebs@xyzlaernot999.bogus> wrote in message
> news:u3c7ko77FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Forgive me Uriel,
>>
>> My post was along the lines of easiest options.
>>
>> I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily, safely
>> and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go
>> skew-wiff if introduced to other solutions.
>>
>> Uriel wrote:
>>> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
>>> Preferences.
>>>
>>> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in
>>> Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
>>> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps
>>> they want on their machines?
>>>
>
>

Uriel wrote:
> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
> know when my friends come online.
>
> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info but
> it won't stop.
>
> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING unchecked.
> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's Stand
> By.
>
> Is there some way to get peace?
>
>


Modify C:\Windows\Inf\Sysoc.inf to remove the word "Hide" from
the pertinent Windows Components entries. Be sure to leave the two
surrounding commas in place. (Iow, change the line
"AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,hide,7" to read
"AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7" ), and then go to Control
Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows Components. Windows
Messenger will now appear among the list of Windows components that can
be removed.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

Yes, it's a new PC (a Gateway), but I declined prompts offering AOL. I'm
pretty sure I didn't inadvertently activate it.

Am uninstalling now.

Seems Gateway and AOL have a deal.

Ahhh, of course, a restart of the system is required, as always........

"DL" <dl@LeaveMeAlone.net> wrote in message
news:uvI$Bx77FHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
If you have these AOL files in your startup, then it would seem that AOL has
been installed, at some stage.
Perhaps if this was a new PC it was supplied with an AOL service that merely
required activating. or perhaps there was a shortcut that was inadvertantely
activated.


"Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:OAdZ1x67FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, but there is no "msmsgs" there.
>
> There are some other things -- e.g. AOLHostManager, AOLSP Scheduler. I
> don't
> use AOL. Any reason for that to be there?
>
> What happens when you remove these things?
>
> There's also one with a blank under the headings Item and Command.
>
> "Byte" <Byte@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:900D0138-11B6-41D7-AF0D-021BB4842A33@microsoft.com...
> Start>Run>type MSCONFIG and click OK
> Click the Startup tab>uncheck msmsgs>Apply>Close>reboot
> --
> XP - WNP
> Today is the first day of the
> rest of your life.
>
>
> "Uriel" wrote:
>
>> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
>> know when my friends come online.
>>
>> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>>
>> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info
>> but
>> it won't stop.
>>
>> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
>> unchecked.
>> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's
>> Stand
>> By.
>>
>> Is there some way to get peace?
>>
>>
>>
>
>

My response below about the VBS file was not in response to your post but to
Carey Frisch's, who proposed
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/scripts_d...er_autorun.htm .

I was just expressing that I'd expect Messenger itself would surely offer
the option of being turned off.

"deebs" <deebs@xyzlaernot999.bogus> wrote in message
news:u3c7ko77FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Forgive me Uriel,

My post was along the lines of easiest options.

I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily,
safely and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go
skew-wiff if introduced to other solutions.

Uriel wrote:
> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
> Preferences.
>
> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in
> Outlook
> Express.
>
> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps
> they
> want on their machines?
>

Thanks. I will do that if Messenger arises again. It hasn't lately.
Sometimes, I find, there's a delayed reaction when you set something, or
turn something off.

I would note however that the description for that item in Add/Remove Pgms
says: "Adds or removes access to Win Messenger from the Start menu." --As
opposed to removing the component.

"Chuck Burmester" <chuckburmester@cox.net> wrote in message
news:v9Ogf.42679$2k5.41532@dukeread09...
to get rid of messenger, open control panel, add remove programs, add remove
windows components, uncheck windows messenger, next, finish. No more
windows messenger.



"deebs" <deebs@xyzlaernot999.bogus> wrote in message
news:u3c7ko77FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Forgive me Uriel,
>
> My post was along the lines of easiest options.
>
> I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily, safely
> and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go skew-wiff
> if introduced to other solutions.
>
> Uriel wrote:
>> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
>> Preferences.
>>
>> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in
>> Outlook Express.
>>
>> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
>> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps
>> they want on their machines?
>>

"Uriel" <urielw@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:u6Ef2R%237FHA.3048@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Thanks. I will do that if Messenger arises again. It hasn't lately.
> Sometimes, I find, there's a delayed reaction when you set something, or
> turn something off.
>
> I would note however that the description for that item in Add/Remove Pgms
> says: "Adds or removes access to Win Messenger from the Start menu." --As
> opposed to removing the component.

That only deletes the shortcut to Windows Messenger. It does nothing for
removing the program itself.

>
> "Chuck Burmester" <chuckburmester@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:v9Ogf.42679$2k5.41532@dukeread09...
> to get rid of messenger, open control panel, add remove programs, add
> remove
> windows components, uncheck windows messenger, next, finish. No more
> windows messenger.
>
>
>
> "deebs" <deebs@xyzlaernot999.bogus> wrote in message
> news:u3c7ko77FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Forgive me Uriel,
>>
>> My post was along the lines of easiest options.
>>
>> I meet many people with the ability to run a 3rd party app easily, safely
>> and confidently but also have an uncanny knack to make things go
>> skew-wiff
>> if introduced to other solutions.
>>
>> Uriel wrote:
>>> I had already unchecked everything in Messenger's Tools > Options >
>>> Preferences.
>>>
>>> I had also unchecked "Automatically log on to Windows Messenger" in
>>> Outlook Express.
>>>
>>> I cannot believe I have to download and run a 3'rd party VBS file to
>>> deactivate Win Messenger. Don't users have the freedom to run the apps
>>> they want on their machines?
>>>
>
>
>

>You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
>both at once. - RAH

Apt quote! Indeed I was asking for both.

As to the rest -- not sure what you mean. Messenger is already visible in
the list of windows components, and I already have a line in
C:\Windows\Inf\Sysoc.inf that reads:

"AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7"

However, another entry in C:\Windows\Inf\Sysoc.inf may account for why I
couldn't follow the earlier suggestion from "Byte"
<Byte@discussions.microsoft.com>, who advised:

------------------------------
Start>Run>type MSCONFIG and click OK
Click the Startup tab>uncheck msmsgs>Apply>Close>reboot
------------------------------

I have one line in that file that says:

"msmsgs=msgrocm.dll,OcEntry,msmsgs.inf,hide,7"

I tried removing "hide", but msmsgs still doesn't appear in the Startup tab,
even after rebooting.

But unchecking things in the MSCONFIG startup tab wouldn't be an ideal
solution anyway, since as soon as you uncheck something there, the "startup
selection" on the general tab of MSCONFIG changes from Normal Startup to
Selective Startup, and you get various warning messages. I shouldn't have to
have an abnormal startup just because I want to disable Win Messenger.

"Bruce Chambers" <bchambers@cable0ne.n3t> wrote in message
news:epuJ1y97FHA.4076@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Uriel wrote:
> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't want to
> know when my friends come online.
>
> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for info
> but
> it won't stop.
>
> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
> unchecked.
> But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed from WinXP's
> Stand
> By.
>
> Is there some way to get peace?
>
>


Modify C:\Windows\Inf\Sysoc.inf to remove the word "Hide" from
the pertinent Windows Components entries. Be sure to leave the two
surrounding commas in place. (Iow, change the line
"AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,hide,7" to read
"AccessUtil=ocgen.dll,OcEntry,accessor.inf,,7" ), and then go to Control
Panel > Add/Remove Programs > Add/Remove Windows Components. Windows
Messenger will now appear among the list of Windows components that can
be removed.


--

Bruce Chambers

Help us help you:
http://dts-l.org/goodpost.htm
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having
both at once. - RAH

Uriel wrote:
> I don't want to chat. I don't want instant notifications. I don't
> want to know when my friends come online.
>
> I want to be able to THINK a bit. Without interruption.
>
> I've done everything to stop Windows Messenger's popup demands for
> info but it won't stop.
>
> Under Messenger's Tools / Options / Preferences I have EVERYTHING
> unchecked. But it still interrupts me, like just now when I resumed
> from WinXP's Stand By.
>
> Is there some way to get peace?

http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_messenger_remove.htm

--
Mike Pawlak