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Help: How do I disable Help and Support through Group Policy or push?????
Posted by juniopp101@hotmail.com on November 21st, 2005


I am attempting to disable Help and Support on a particular login name.
The student login is limited to pretty much everything except the one
program they should be running. I've been able to disable most
shortcut keys on all the machines through GP except for the F1 key.
When they press that they can access the Help and Support menu and fool
around there.

Is there a way to disable this through Group Policy? If not GP then is
there a way to push this over the network in Active Directory but only
affect the student login?

Thank you for your time,
Kip

Posted by Carey Frisch [MVP] on November 21st, 2005


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"juniopp101" wrote:

| I am attempting to disable Help and Support on a particular login name.
| The student login is limited to pretty much everything except the one
| program they should be running. I've been able to disable most
| shortcut keys on all the machines through GP except for the F1 key.
| When they press that they can access the Help and Support menu and fool
| around there.
|
| Is there a way to disable this through Group Policy? If not GP then is
| there a way to push this over the network in Active Directory but only
| affect the student login?
|
| Thank you for your time,
| Kip

Posted by juniopp101@hotmail.com on November 21st, 2005


omg that was fast. Thank you!

Posted by HeeroYuy on November 21st, 2005



<juniopp101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132597659.962943.116140@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>I am attempting to disable Help and Support on a particular login name.
> The student login is limited to pretty much everything except the one
> program they should be running. I've been able to disable most
> shortcut keys on all the machines through GP except for the F1 key.
> When they press that they can access the Help and Support menu and fool
> around there.
>
> Is there a way to disable this through Group Policy? If not GP then is
> there a way to push this over the network in Active Directory but only
> affect the student login?
>
> Thank you for your time,
> Kip


Help and Support is administered and run through the svchost.exe file, and
you should not set policy on that file or the user won't be able to log in.
I haven't found a way to turn it off for one user, but you can shut the
service down altogether. My question is: if they are not an administrator
and you have a strong password for the main administrator account, why do
you need to shut down Help and Support?

Help and Support is not network based, it is a local service and needs to be
disabled on each and every machine you don't want it functioning on. To do
this, go to Start > Run, and in the box, type "services.msc" without the
quotes and click OK. Then a list of services will pop up. Scroll down until
you see Help and Support and double click on it. Then, you'll see a pull
down list that says Automatic. Use the pull down list to select disabled,
then click on the Stop button and then click Apply and OK. You have just
disabled Help and Support for that machine.


Posted by HeeroYuy on November 21st, 2005



"HeeroYuy" <h@h.h> wrote in message
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I will defer to the MVP.

>
> <juniopp101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1132597659.962943.116140@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
>>I am attempting to disable Help and Support on a particular login name.
>> The student login is limited to pretty much everything except the one
>> program they should be running. I've been able to disable most
>> shortcut keys on all the machines through GP except for the F1 key.
>> When they press that they can access the Help and Support menu and fool
>> around there.
>>
>> Is there a way to disable this through Group Policy? If not GP then is
>> there a way to push this over the network in Active Directory but only
>> affect the student login?
>>
>> Thank you for your time,
>> Kip

>
> Help and Support is administered and run through the svchost.exe file, and
> you should not set policy on that file or the user won't be able to log
> in. I haven't found a way to turn it off for one user, but you can shut
> the service down altogether. My question is: if they are not an
> administrator and you have a strong password for the main administrator
> account, why do you need to shut down Help and Support?
>
> Help and Support is not network based, it is a local service and needs to
> be disabled on each and every machine you don't want it functioning on. To
> do this, go to Start > Run, and in the box, type "services.msc" without
> the quotes and click OK. Then a list of services will pop up. Scroll down
> until you see Help and Support and double click on it. Then, you'll see a
> pull down list that says Automatic. Use the pull down list to select
> disabled, then click on the Stop button and then click Apply and OK. You
> have just disabled Help and Support for that machine.
>



Posted by juniopp101@hotmail.com on November 22nd, 2005


There are too many ways to cicumvent a system through help and support.
I was hoping to simply disable the F1 key as that is the only way to
access it right now. I also wanted to avoid going to each and every
single machine and do this as there are about 600 machines to do. For
instance if you navigate through help and support to the newsgroup
section you can activate internet explorer and surf the net. Or you
could look into the network diag, and find out IP addresses and such.

These schools are where all the juveniles go, so they TRY to find ways
to break down the system. It would be great if I could prevent access
to everything but the one program they have to use will not work then.
So I couldn't for instance stop windows from retrieving a F1 command
because the program needs it too.

I did not think to go into services to disable help and support, thanks
for pointing that out. Curious if there is a way to set up a script to
achieve the result you stated. If not... I'll be doing this for a long
long time. sigh...

Thank you for your reply.

Posted by HeeroYuy on November 22nd, 2005



<juniopp101@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1132666396.169910.282390@g43g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> There are too many ways to cicumvent a system through help and support.
> I was hoping to simply disable the F1 key as that is the only way to
> access it right now. I also wanted to avoid going to each and every
> single machine and do this as there are about 600 machines to do. For
> instance if you navigate through help and support to the newsgroup
> section you can activate internet explorer and surf the net. Or you
> could look into the network diag, and find out IP addresses and such.
>
> These schools are where all the juveniles go, so they TRY to find ways
> to break down the system. It would be great if I could prevent access
> to everything but the one program they have to use will not work then.
> So I couldn't for instance stop windows from retrieving a F1 command
> because the program needs it too.
>
> I did not think to go into services to disable help and support, thanks
> for pointing that out. Curious if there is a way to set up a script to
> achieve the result you stated. If not... I'll be doing this for a long
> long time. sigh...
>
> Thank you for your reply.


You're welcome. I'm sure a script can be written for disabling the Help and
Support service. I must warn you though, if you have SP1, Help and Support
may reenable when they open it, but SP2 will let them know the service has
been disabled.



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