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starting service before explorer shell starts...
Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I autologin
to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer shell comes up,
I am already connected...
is this possible?

THANKS

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HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914


Posted by David H. Lipman on November 17th, 2005


From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>

| I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I autologin
| to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer shell comes up,
| I am already connected...
| is this possible?
|
| THANKS
|
| --

Use a Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41 and the Router will make the connection,
not the PC.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


I dont want to use a router...

Can I delay the shell from loading?


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HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
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"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:u1l3DTy6FHA.3388@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>
>
> | I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
> autologin
> | to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer shell comes
> up,
> | I am already connected...
> | is this possible?
> |
> | THANKS
> |
> | --
>
> Use a Cable/DSL Router such as the Linksys BEFSR41 and the Router will
> make the connection,
> not the PC.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>



Posted by WTC on November 17th, 2005


"kenny" <dot@net.biz> wrote in message
news:OPbnaJy6FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
>autologin to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer shell
>comes up, I am already connected...
> is this possible?
>


Don't use autologin, wait a minute or two before logging in, then most or
all your services will be running if they are set to Automatic start-up.

--
William



Posted by David H. Lipman on November 17th, 2005


From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>

| I dont want to use a router...
|
| Can I delay the shell from loading?
|
| --

Why ?

It allows to to share the one WAN connection with upto 253 LAN nodes that can include any
TCP/IP comopliant device including game boxes such as the Playstation/2 or XBox.
Additionally such a device has simplistic or a full implementation of a FireWall and will
grreatly add to your protection. If you use PPPoE as the connector for DSL then you won't
need any PPPoE connector on the PC, the Router does it all.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


Posted by GTS on November 17th, 2005


If you're running XP PRO you might try setting Group Policy (gpedit.msc) -
Computer Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> System --> Logon and
set the policy that says "Always wait for the network at computer
startup and logon." I'm not sure that this will work with the DSL
autoconnection, though it works well with standard network connections, and
is worth a try.
--

"kenny" <dot@net.biz> wrote in message
news:OPbnaJy6FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
>autologin to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer shell
>comes up, I am already connected...
> is this possible?
>
> THANKS
>
> --
> --
> HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
> Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
>



Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


I am indeed using XP pro, but I cant see that under administrative
templates...

all I have there is windows components

and yes I am an administrator


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HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:e0Kx3oy6FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If you're running XP PRO you might try setting Group Policy (gpedit.msc) -
> Computer Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> System --> Logon
> and set the policy that says "Always wait for the network at computer
> startup and logon." I'm not sure that this will work with the DSL
> autoconnection, though it works well with standard network connections,
> and is worth a try.
> --
>
> "kenny" <dot@net.biz> wrote in message
> news:OPbnaJy6FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
>>autologin to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer
>>shell comes up, I am already connected...
>> is this possible?
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> --
>> --
>> HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
>> Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
>>

>
>



Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


Sorry I found it, I had to add the template and then configure it...

Im gonna try and post the results....

thanks

--
--
HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:e0Kx3oy6FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If you're running XP PRO you might try setting Group Policy (gpedit.msc) -
> Computer Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> System --> Logon
> and set the policy that says "Always wait for the network at computer
> startup and logon." I'm not sure that this will work with the DSL
> autoconnection, though it works well with standard network connections,
> and is worth a try.
> --
>
> "kenny" <dot@net.biz> wrote in message
> news:OPbnaJy6FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
>>autologin to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer
>>shell comes up, I am already connected...
>> is this possible?
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> --
>> --
>> HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
>> Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
>>

>
>



Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


Because you have to keep configuring routers all the time if you change
applications all the time... and I do!

Furthermore I am sure there is a way to do this without getting more
hardware

--
--
HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:Ojam1fy6FHA.3048@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>
>
> | I dont want to use a router...
> |
> | Can I delay the shell from loading?
> |
> | --
>
> Why ?
>
> It allows to to share the one WAN connection with upto 253 LAN nodes that
> can include any
> TCP/IP comopliant device including game boxes such as the Playstation/2 or
> XBox.
> Additionally such a device has simplistic or a full implementation of a
> FireWall and will
> grreatly add to your protection. If you use PPPoE as the connector for
> DSL then you won't
> need any PPPoE connector on the PC, the Router does it all.
>
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>



Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


seemed like a good idea. but nothing changed

--
--
HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
"GTS" <x> wrote in message news:e0Kx3oy6FHA.3876@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> If you're running XP PRO you might try setting Group Policy (gpedit.msc) -
> Computer Configuration --> Administrative Templates --> System --> Logon
> and set the policy that says "Always wait for the network at computer
> startup and logon." I'm not sure that this will work with the DSL
> autoconnection, though it works well with standard network connections,
> and is worth a try.
> --
>
> "kenny" <dot@net.biz> wrote in message
> news:OPbnaJy6FHA.1864@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>>I want to start a service that is for adsl autoconnection before I
>>autologin to windows (with the MS powertoy) so that when the explorer
>>shell comes up, I am already connected...
>> is this possible?
>>
>> THANKS
>>
>> --
>> --
>> HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
>> Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
>>

>
>



Posted by David H. Lipman on November 17th, 2005


From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>

| Because you have to keep configuring routers all the time if you change
| applications all the time... and I do!
|
| Furthermore I am sure there is a way to do this without getting more
| hardware
|
| --

I have been using Routers for almost a decade. First on Comcast cable using a BEFSR41 v1
Router and now with Verizon DSL and a Linksys BEFSR81 v2 Router. The configuration is
*very* static. I also have uPnP enabled for uPnP compliant software.

I don't understand why you think "...if you change applications all the time" it would
affect the Router. It doesn't.

Additionally I block TCP and UDP ports 135 ~ 139 and 445 on my Router and that makes me
quite safe against NetBIOS pop-ups, hackers and Internet worms such as; Sasser, BugBear,
SDBot, Lovsan/Blaster, etc.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm


Posted by kenny on November 17th, 2005


its hard to explain now, but I need to be directly connected to the internet
and use only a software firewall.

Anyway I found an alternative solution to my problem (for the people who are
googleing, perhaps they may find some use in this info) that was using a
small application from nirsoft to restart the explorer shell after the boot
Its called EXPLORE START
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/explorestart.zip

I put that in my startup folder so that after the boot the shell was
restarted and everything is working ok now... So instead of starting the
service before I logged on, I restart the shell after wards.

Kenny


--
--
HOPE -- Desire and expectation rolled into one.
Ambrose Bierce1842-1914
"David H. Lipman" <DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net> wrote in message
news:%2339$rA46FHA.3760@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> From: "kenny" <dot@net.biz>
>
> | Because you have to keep configuring routers all the time if you change
> | applications all the time... and I do!
> |
> | Furthermore I am sure there is a way to do this without getting more
> | hardware
> |
> | --
>
> I have been using Routers for almost a decade. First on Comcast cable
> using a BEFSR41 v1
> Router and now with Verizon DSL and a Linksys BEFSR81 v2 Router. The
> configuration is
> *very* static. I also have uPnP enabled for uPnP compliant software.
>
> I don't understand why you think "...if you change applications all the
> time" it would
> affect the Router. It doesn't.
>
> Additionally I block TCP and UDP ports 135 ~ 139 and 445 on my Router and
> that makes me
> quite safe against NetBIOS pop-ups, hackers and Internet worms such as;
> Sasser, BugBear,
> SDBot, Lovsan/Blaster, etc.
>
> --
> Dave
> http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
> http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm
>
>




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