- HDTV STB to MCE, is it possible?
- Posted by albert on November 27th, 2005
I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input and
HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports over
the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable, what kind
of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
- Posted by Cari \(MS-MVP\) on November 28th, 2005
OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes direct
from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that to a tv
tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input and
> HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports
> over
> the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable, what
> kind
> of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
- Posted by albert on November 28th, 2005
Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for MCE
to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
"Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes direct
> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that to a tv
> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>
> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
> --
> Cari (MS-MVP)
> Printing & Imaging
>
>
>
> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input and
> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports
> > over
> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable, what
> > kind
> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>
>
>
- Posted by Cari \(MS-MVP\) on November 28th, 2005
SD = Standard Definition (as opposed to HD = High Definition).....
I have a FX5700 with 256mb RAM.
--
Cari (MS-MVP)
Printing & Imaging
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
> Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
> MCE
> to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
>> direct
>> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that to a
>> tv
>> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>>
>> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> Printing & Imaging
>>
>>
>>
>> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input
>> >and
>> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports
>> > over
>> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
>> > what
>> > kind
>> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>>
>>
>>
- Posted by JW on November 28th, 2005
To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a video card
with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend a
128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process both
1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has all of
the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs when yu
use the NVIDIA Decoder.
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
> Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
> MCE
> to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
>
> "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>
>> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
>> direct
>> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that to a
>> tv
>> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>>
>> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
>> --
>> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> Printing & Imaging
>>
>>
>>
>> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input
>> >and
>> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports
>> > over
>> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
>> > what
>> > kind
>> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>>
>>
>>
- Posted by albert on November 28th, 2005
So the Nividia card will handle HD, but is the decoder not a part of the
card? Anyway, do I need another extender if I am using Xbox 360 to connect to
the HD TV set (hardwire)...planning on connecting MCE to 802.11g network
"JW" wrote:
> To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a video card
> with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend a
> 128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process both
> 1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has all of
> the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs when yu
> use the NVIDIA Decoder.
>
> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
> > Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
> > MCE
> > to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
> >
> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >
> >> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
> >> direct
> >> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that to a
> >> tv
> >> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
> >>
> >> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
> >> --
> >> Cari (MS-MVP)
> >> Printing & Imaging
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
> >> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD input
> >> >and
> >> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only supports
> >> > over
> >> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
> >> > what
> >> > kind
> >> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
- Posted by Michael Creasy - [MS] on November 28th, 2005
802.11g isn't going to be sufficient for HD content. You should use 802.11a
--
Michael Creasy [MS]
http://www.michaelcreasy.com/blog
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10ECBAE2-2929-4816-8DC6-36AC96294ACA@microsoft.com...
> So the Nividia card will handle HD, but is the decoder not a part of the
> card? Anyway, do I need another extender if I am using Xbox 360 to connect
> to
> the HD TV set (hardwire)...planning on connecting MCE to 802.11g network
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a video
>> card
>> with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend a
>> 128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process both
>> 1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has all
>> of
>> the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs when
>> yu
>> use the NVIDIA Decoder.
>>
>> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
>> > Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
>> > MCE
>> > to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
>> >
>> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
>> >> direct
>> >> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that
>> >> to a
>> >> tv
>> >> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>> >>
>> >> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
>> >> --
>> >> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> >> Printing & Imaging
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD
>> >> >input
>> >> >and
>> >> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only
>> >> > supports
>> >> > over
>> >> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
>> >> > what
>> >> > kind
>> >> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
- Posted by JW on November 29th, 2005
When you buy a NVIDIA card the manutacturer of the card normally includes
the NVIDIA decoder.
An extender uses its own decoder since it recieves the encoded video form
the MCE host system. I have not seen any recommendations posted from MS
about what network bandwidth is required to transport HD 1080i or 720p
encoded video to an extender. Posssibly Barb has the answer since I saw one
post from her implying that more effiecinet network transfers have been
implemented in RU2 for use with the XBOX 360 extender and from this post I
presume the 811.g mite be sufficient for HD programming iif only one XBOX
360 extender is in use.
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:10ECBAE2-2929-4816-8DC6-36AC96294ACA@microsoft.com...
> So the Nividia card will handle HD, but is the decoder not a part of the
> card? Anyway, do I need another extender if I am using Xbox 360 to connect
> to
> the HD TV set (hardwire)...planning on connecting MCE to 802.11g network
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a video
>> card
>> with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend a
>> 128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process both
>> 1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has all
>> of
>> the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs when
>> yu
>> use the NVIDIA Decoder.
>>
>> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
>> > Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
>> > MCE
>> > to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
>> >
>> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >
>> >> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
>> >> direct
>> >> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that
>> >> to a
>> >> tv
>> >> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>> >>
>> >> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
>> >> --
>> >> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> >> Printing & Imaging
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>> >> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD
>> >> >input
>> >> >and
>> >> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only
>> >> > supports
>> >> > over
>> >> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
>> >> > what
>> >> > kind
>> >> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
- Posted by albert on November 29th, 2005
If I understand the last post correctly, the NVIDIA connected to a 811.1 will
transmit NVIDIA decoded 1080i and 720p to a xbox 360 which acts as an
extender, which then should put the signal to the HD TV set. I see no need
for additional extenders anywhere...where am I going wrong.
"JW" wrote:
> When you buy a NVIDIA card the manutacturer of the card normally includes
> the NVIDIA decoder.
> An extender uses its own decoder since it recieves the encoded video form
> the MCE host system. I have not seen any recommendations posted from MS
> about what network bandwidth is required to transport HD 1080i or 720p
> encoded video to an extender. Posssibly Barb has the answer since I saw one
> post from her implying that more effiecinet network transfers have been
> implemented in RU2 for use with the XBOX 360 extender and from this post I
> presume the 811.g mite be sufficient for HD programming iif only one XBOX
> 360 extender is in use.
>
> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:10ECBAE2-2929-4816-8DC6-36AC96294ACA@microsoft.com...
> > So the Nividia card will handle HD, but is the decoder not a part of the
> > card? Anyway, do I need another extender if I am using Xbox 360 to connect
> > to
> > the HD TV set (hardwire)...planning on connecting MCE to 802.11g network
> >
> > "JW" wrote:
> >
> >> To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a video
> >> card
> >> with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend a
> >> 128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process both
> >> 1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has all
> >> of
> >> the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs when
> >> yu
> >> use the NVIDIA Decoder.
> >>
> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
> >> > Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card for
> >> > MCE
> >> > to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
> >> >
> >> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it comes
> >> >> direct
> >> >> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect that
> >> >> to a
> >> >> tv
> >> >> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
> >> >>
> >> >> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
> >> >> --
> >> >> Cari (MS-MVP)
> >> >> Printing & Imaging
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
> >> >> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD
> >> >> >input
> >> >> >and
> >> >> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only
> >> >> > supports
> >> >> > over
> >> >> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If doable,
> >> >> > what
> >> >> > kind
> >> >> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>
- Posted by JW on November 29th, 2005
No the NVIDIA decoder and video card are only used to decode and display the
HDTV programs on the MCE system PC. When using a XBOX 360 extender the
still encoded HDTV programs are sent to the extender since the extender has
its own decoder and display chips anc encoded files are much smaller than
decoded video. Yes, you need no other extender.
"albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:39CAA2DA-55B1-483C-8426-3355CEBA2E1F@microsoft.com...
> If I understand the last post correctly, the NVIDIA connected to a 811.1
> will
> transmit NVIDIA decoded 1080i and 720p to a xbox 360 which acts as an
> extender, which then should put the signal to the HD TV set. I see no
> need
> for additional extenders anywhere...where am I going wrong.
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> When you buy a NVIDIA card the manutacturer of the card normally includes
>> the NVIDIA decoder.
>> An extender uses its own decoder since it recieves the encoded video form
>> the MCE host system. I have not seen any recommendations posted from MS
>> about what network bandwidth is required to transport HD 1080i or 720p
>> encoded video to an extender. Posssibly Barb has the answer since I saw
>> one
>> post from her implying that more effiecinet network transfers have been
>> implemented in RU2 for use with the XBOX 360 extender and from this post
>> I
>> presume the 811.g mite be sufficient for HD programming iif only one XBOX
>> 360 extender is in use.
>>
>> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:10ECBAE2-2929-4816-8DC6-36AC96294ACA@microsoft.com...
>> > So the Nividia card will handle HD, but is the decoder not a part of
>> > the
>> > card? Anyway, do I need another extender if I am using Xbox 360 to
>> > connect
>> > to
>> > the HD TV set (hardwire)...planning on connecting MCE to 802.11g
>> > network
>> >
>> > "JW" wrote:
>> >
>> >> To handle OTA HDTV MS reccomends that you have 512MB of RAM and a
>> >> video
>> >> card
>> >> with 128MB of memory and a memory bandwidth of 10GB/sec. I reccomend
>> >> a
>> >> 128MB NVIDIA 6600GT since it meets the bandwith required to process
>> >> both
>> >> 1080i and 720p programs received with an OTA HDTV tuner card and has
>> >> all
>> >> of
>> >> the NVIDIA PureVideo support for better PQ of 180i or 1080i programs
>> >> when
>> >> yu
>> >> use the NVIDIA Decoder.
>> >>
>> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:5F68E4AD-C483-470A-B84D-BBAB27CDF124@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Pardon my ignorance but what is SD and what is the optimal Vid card
>> >> > for
>> >> > MCE
>> >> > to smoothly handle OTA HD, how much VRAM is required...anyone know?
>> >> >
>> >> > "Cari (MS-MVP)" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> OTA means just that..... MCE can accept an HD signal ONLY if it
>> >> >> comes
>> >> >> direct
>> >> >> from a plain old fashioned antenna on your roof and you connect
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> to a
>> >> >> tv
>> >> >> tuner in your MCE PC that has HD capability.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> From a satellite or cable receiver box, you can have SD ONLY.
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Cari (MS-MVP)
>> >> >> Printing & Imaging
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "albert" <albert@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:7A7DEA25-54C8-4D40-9068-444DCD088370@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> >I have Optimum online DTV STB w/HDTV, trying to connect to MCE HD
>> >> >> >input
>> >> >> >and
>> >> >> > HD out to TV through extender (wireless). I see that MCE only
>> >> >> > supports
>> >> >> > over
>> >> >> > the air DTV...can this be done and will the Guide work? If
>> >> >> > doable,
>> >> >> > what
>> >> >> > kind
>> >> >> > of vid card do you recommend? Thanks
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>
