Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is many
other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How hard
would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
somehow. Any info would be helpful.
thanks
Doug
Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com

AFAIK MCE works with any DVB tuner card for use in Europe with DVB statisons
that has .BDA Drivers.

"redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com...
> Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is
> many
> other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How hard
> would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
> somehow. Any info would be helpful.
> thanks
> Doug
> Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com

..DBA drivers? Can I play with this AFAIK MCE and make it scan for the US
sats? What and where can I find AFAIK MCE?

"JW" wrote:

> AFAIK MCE works with any DVB tuner card for use in Europe with DVB statisons
> that has .BDA Drivers.
>
> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com...
> > Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is
> > many
> > other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How hard
> > would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
> > somehow. Any info would be helpful.
> > thanks
> > Doug
> > Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com
>
>
>

AFAIK is an abbreviation for As Far As I Know.
There are not stations trasmitting digital with DVB format in North America
just ATSC formats.

"redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9735A837-591D-426E-A433-1E2474214263@microsoft.com...
> .DBA drivers? Can I play with this AFAIK MCE and make it scan for the US
> sats? What and where can I find AFAIK MCE?
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> AFAIK MCE works with any DVB tuner card for use in Europe with DVB
>> statisons
>> that has .BDA Drivers.
>>
>> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com...
>> > Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is
>> > many
>> > other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How
>> > hard
>> > would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
>> > somehow. Any info would be helpful.
>> > thanks
>> > Doug
>> > Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com
>>
>>
>>

There is from Echostar (dishnetwork and Expressvu) work with the DVB-S cards,
but I dont think MCE will scan for US Sats, need to manually change the
frequency or something to get it to find the channels.
Where can I get the drivers that make MCE see the DVB card?

"JW" wrote:

> AFAIK is an abbreviation for As Far As I Know.
> There are not stations trasmitting digital with DVB format in North America
> just ATSC formats.
>
> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:9735A837-591D-426E-A433-1E2474214263@microsoft.com...
> > .DBA drivers? Can I play with this AFAIK MCE and make it scan for the US
> > sats? What and where can I find AFAIK MCE?
> >
> > "JW" wrote:
> >
> >> AFAIK MCE works with any DVB tuner card for use in Europe with DVB
> >> statisons
> >> that has .BDA Drivers.
> >>
> >> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >> news:3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com...
> >> > Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is
> >> > many
> >> > other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How
> >> > hard
> >> > would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
> >> > somehow. Any info would be helpful.
> >> > thanks
> >> > Doug
> >> > Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
>
>

You have to get the DBA drivers for a DVB card from the manufacturer of the
card. Ansd as I stated before there are no networks in North America
transmitting DVB-T at this time the cards are only for use outside of North
America. I have read that a TV station in Western Canada may start DVB
tranmissions next year. Even if E* transmitted using DVB_S you could not
receive them since all E* tranmission are encrypted and the DVB-S cards only
work with uncrypted transmissions.

"redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7C89330D-2AE5-4F2F-8B71-19D2A676FE7B@microsoft.com...
> There is from Echostar (dishnetwork and Expressvu) work with the DVB-S
> cards,
> but I dont think MCE will scan for US Sats, need to manually change the
> frequency or something to get it to find the channels.
> Where can I get the drivers that make MCE see the DVB card?
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
>> AFAIK is an abbreviation for As Far As I Know.
>> There are not stations trasmitting digital with DVB format in North
>> America
>> just ATSC formats.
>>
>> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:9735A837-591D-426E-A433-1E2474214263@microsoft.com...
>> > .DBA drivers? Can I play with this AFAIK MCE and make it scan for the
>> > US
>> > sats? What and where can I find AFAIK MCE?
>> >
>> > "JW" wrote:
>> >
>> >> AFAIK MCE works with any DVB tuner card for use in Europe with DVB
>> >> statisons
>> >> that has .BDA Drivers.
>> >>
>> >> "redeye_joe" <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there
>> >> > is
>> >> > many
>> >> > other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How
>> >> > hard
>> >> > would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do
>> >> > it
>> >> > somehow. Any info would be helpful.
>> >> > thanks
>> >> > Doug
>> >> > Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>>
>>
>>

On 16/10/05 10:27 pm, in article
3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com, "redeye_joe"
<redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is many
> other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How hard
> would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
> somehow. Any info would be helpful.
> thanks
> Doug
> Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com

Contrary to what JW said, MCE does NOT currently support DVB-S cards (nor
for that matter DVB-C cards).

DVB-T = DVB over terrestrial (over the air)
DVB-S = Satellite
DVB-C = Cable

It is possible Direct TV may be going the (or already be) DVB-S route (since
it is now owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Sky).

Us European's are positively frothing at the mouth over the huge length of
time we are having to wait for DVB-S (and DVB-C) support. I personally
REFUSE to buy MCE and use it with an analog connection to a DVB-S set top
box (analog connections cannot do HD, surround sound, etc. etc. etc.). As
has been indicated plenty of other applications (e.g. MediaPortal) do
support both DVB-S and DVB-C (with and without CI support for encrypted
channels). Part of the reason us Europeans are so upset is that European set
top boxes typically do NOT have FireWire interfaces (so that rules out
another method of getting the digital recordings).

Some DVB-S manufacturers having also got pissed off by Microsoft's failure
to directly support DVB-S cards have developed a hack as a workaround. They
do this by making the DVB-S card look like a DVB-T card to the Microsoft MCE
software. However this approach I believe severely restricts what channels
you can use.

The general consensus seems to be that Microsoft will FINALLY support DVB-S
and DVB-C cards officially with the Vista release of MCE, but that is still
at least 14 months away!!! It is possible that Microsoft have been waiting
for the much tougher DRM in Vista before supporting these additional digital
services.

By then we may have been using DVB-S2 for nearly a year! DVB-S2 is an
enhanced version which is being (will be) used throughout Europe for HD
satellite broadcasts. Sky's HD service is launching in the Spring using
DVB-S2 and MPEG4.

While there are other things MCE does not [yet] support, and some things I
know will be better in a years time (e.g. Intel dual core CPUs), the lack of
DVB-S support is THE single feature that prevents me getting an MCE system.

I stand corrected I was confused about which DVB-x cards had BDA drivers and
which were supported by MCE..Is it correct then to say that only DVB-T cards
with BDA drivers are supported?

"John Lockwood" <john.lockwood@amtec.co.uk> wrote in message
news:BF7AD31A.69CF%john.lockwood@amtec.co.uk...
> On 16/10/05 10:27 pm, in article
> 3B64F30E-90D5-4F89-A734-CB1EE0A66E09@microsoft.com, "redeye_joe"
> <redeye_joe@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know of any info about MCE and DVB's, I know that there is
>> many
>> other programs that work with them but not MCE, like My Theatre. How hard
>> would it be to intergrate My theatre into MCE or can I manually do it
>> somehow. Any info would be helpful.
>> thanks
>> Doug
>> Redeye_Joe@hotmail.com
>
> Contrary to what JW said, MCE does NOT currently support DVB-S cards (nor
> for that matter DVB-C cards).
>
> DVB-T = DVB over terrestrial (over the air)
> DVB-S = Satellite
> DVB-C = Cable
>
> It is possible Direct TV may be going the (or already be) DVB-S route
> (since
> it is now owned by Rupert Murdoch who also owns Sky).
>
> Us European's are positively frothing at the mouth over the huge length of
> time we are having to wait for DVB-S (and DVB-C) support. I personally
> REFUSE to buy MCE and use it with an analog connection to a DVB-S set top
> box (analog connections cannot do HD, surround sound, etc. etc. etc.). As
> has been indicated plenty of other applications (e.g. MediaPortal) do
> support both DVB-S and DVB-C (with and without CI support for encrypted
> channels). Part of the reason us Europeans are so upset is that European
> set
> top boxes typically do NOT have FireWire interfaces (so that rules out
> another method of getting the digital recordings).
>
> Some DVB-S manufacturers having also got pissed off by Microsoft's failure
> to directly support DVB-S cards have developed a hack as a workaround.
> They
> do this by making the DVB-S card look like a DVB-T card to the Microsoft
> MCE
> software. However this approach I believe severely restricts what channels
> you can use.
>
> The general consensus seems to be that Microsoft will FINALLY support
> DVB-S
> and DVB-C cards officially with the Vista release of MCE, but that is
> still
> at least 14 months away!!! It is possible that Microsoft have been waiting
> for the much tougher DRM in Vista before supporting these additional
> digital
> services.
>
> By then we may have been using DVB-S2 for nearly a year! DVB-S2 is an
> enhanced version which is being (will be) used throughout Europe for HD
> satellite broadcasts. Sky's HD service is launching in the Spring using
> DVB-S2 and MPEG4.
>
> While there are other things MCE does not [yet] support, and some things I
> know will be better in a years time (e.g. Intel dual core CPUs), the lack
> of
> DVB-S support is THE single feature that prevents me getting an MCE
> system.
>

On 18/10/05 4:59 pm, in article eYpA7z$0FHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl, "JW"
<nospam@no.spam> wrote:

> I stand corrected I was confused about which DVB-x cards had BDA drivers and
> which were supported by MCE..Is it correct then to say that only DVB-T cards
> with BDA drivers are supported?

That's correct. Microsoft only officially support DVB-T cards with BDA
drivers. Despite the fact that DVB-S and DVB-C cards can come with BDA
drivers they will not directly work with MCE (excluding the limited hack I
mentioned).

DVBs and encrypted channels is now possible in MCE with a Technotrend Budget
PCI DVBs card.