Since Mr Martin keeps accusing me of being an eCS user, which I'm not, I
thought I would take this opportunity to find out what is the latest
state of play....

I understand that v1.1 came out some time ago, what level of OS/2 does
it use?

What is in store after v1.1?

John Poltorak wrote:

eCS 1.1 is based on IBM OS/2 4.52 (but of course, is NOT really OS/2,
because someone here says it isn't).

I have no pipeline into either IBM or Serenity Systems. You might try
doing a Google on Warpstock, or reading down this newsgroup to the post
titled "VOICE Newsletter for November 2003". (This post is, of course,
not really about OS/2, despite the name of the organization which outs
it out, because someone here says it isn't.)

I'm pretty certain that Warpstock isn't really about OS/2, either,
because it is tainted by mentioning eCS. However, I don't remember
being told by someone here that it isn't about OS/2. Mayeb I shouldn't
try to have any opinions about any of this myself, but rather rely on
someone here to tell me whether I'm a real OS/2 user.

In article <EHUrb.191$b77.144@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com>
cmcampb@adelphia.net_remove_this "Colin Campbell" writes:

Only if he says "eCS" three times.
--
Andrew Stephenson

Suddenly, John Poltorak sprang forth and uttered these pithy words:
I think the plan is to tidy up the remaining areas of the install and
start plugging some gaps in features...

--
aaronl at consultant dot com
For every expert, there is an equal and
opposite expert. - Arthur C. Clarke

Okay gang, aim your complaints against this eCS salesman and his illegal
spamming to: abuse@gblx.net

You CAN shut him down.

John Poltorak wrote:
The eCS product is a *privately owned proprietary commercial package*
factully proven to be problematic and known within the OS/2 community
as the worst scam perpetuated in the OS/2 newsgroup in the last few years.

If you would like to put an end to the eCS Scam take your complaint to
the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
here:

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
From his Warp 4.53 ThinkPad T40 w/2GIG of RAM,
80GIG of Hard Disk and IBM's Web Browser for OS/2

Purpoeting you the illegal spamming by Colin Campbell can be stopped by
complaining to HIS newsgroup provider, here: news@ext.ray.com

Just forward his original response with headers and demand such illegal
advertising be halted immediately.

The eCS product is a *privately owned proprietary commercial package*
factully proven to be problematic and known within the OS/2 community
as the worst scam perpetuated in the OS/2 newsgroup in the last few years.

If you would like to put an end to the eCS Scam take your complaint to
the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
here:

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
From his Warp 4.53 ThinkPad T40 w/2GIG of RAM,
80GIG of Hard Disk and IBM's Web Browser for OS/2

Colin Campbell wrote:

To complain about this illegal eCS spamming by Andrew Stephenson you can
complain to HIS ISP here:
abuse@demon.net

The eCS product is a *privately owned proprietary commercial package*
factully proven to be problematic and known within the OS/2 community
as the worst scam perpetuated in the OS/2 newsgroup in the last few years.

If you would like to put an end to the eCS Scam take your complaint to
the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
here:

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
From his Warp 4.53 ThinkPad T40 w/2GIG of RAM,
80GIG of Hard Disk and IBM's Web Browser for OS/2


Andrew Stephenson wrote:

Aaron is no different then the other eCS salesmen/investors who continue
to clog up the OS/2 newsgroups with illegal eCS spam. You CAN shut
Aaron down quickly as his newsgroup provider is known to act. Complain
to: newsadmin@xtra.co.nz

The eCS product is a *privately owned proprietary commercial package*
factully proven to be problematic and known within the OS/2 community
as the worst scam perpetuated in the OS/2 newsgroup in the last few years.

If you would like to put an end to the eCS Scam take your complaint to
the Internet Fraud Complaint Center of the Federal Bureau of Investigation
here:

http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp

Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Warp City Web Site - http://www.warpcity.com
From his Warp 4.53 ThinkPad T40 w/2GIG of RAM,
80GIG of Hard Disk and IBM's Web Browser for OS/2

Aaron Lawrence wrote:

The OS/2 Guy wrote:

Tim,

seek treatment now, before it's too late.

Bob

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 21:16:24 +0000, John Poltorak <jp@eyup.org> wrote:
MCP2 plus FixPak 3 (XR_C003) DD FixPak 3 (XR_D003), a couple of driver
updates, and I think MPTS WR_8706 and TCP/IP UN_2206 if MCP2 didn't
already include them...


Probably a media refresh to synchronize the English, German and Russian
code bases for 1.1 (mainly just installer tweaks). After that, Bob is
suggesting a next version some time in the middle of 2004, IIRC. And more
NLVs if possible.

--
Alex Taylor
http://www.cs-club.org/~alex

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 08:01:06 -0500, The OS/2 Guy wrote:

:>Okay gang, aim your complaints against this eCS salesman and his illegal
:>spamming to: abuse@gblx.net
:>
:>You CAN shut him down.
:>

Ooh, can I be next?

Can't wait till TM shuts me down.


Have fun trying timmy boy.

Chris Stumpf
C.S.E. Computer Services
Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
Serenity Systems Channel Partner
IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4


email: cstumpf@monmouth.com
phone: (323)707-4410

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 01:17:48 +0000 (UTC), Andrew Stephenson wrote:

:>In article <EHUrb.191$b77.144@dfw-service2.ext.raytheon.com>
:> cmcampb@adelphia.net_remove_this "Colin Campbell" writes:
:>
:>> John Poltorak wrote:
:>> > Since Mr Martin keeps accusing me of being an eCS user, which I'm not, I
:>> > thought I would take this opportunity to find out what is the latest
:>> > state of play....
:>> >
:>> > I understand that v1.1 came out some time ago, what level of OS/2 does
:>> > it use?
:>> >
:>> > What is in store after v1.1?
:>>
:>> You're going to get us all in BIG trouble! <g>
:>>
:>> [...]
:>
:>Only if he says "eCS" three times.
:>--
:>Andrew Stephenson
:>

eCS
eCS
eCS



Chris Stumpf
C.S.E. Computer Services
Computer Consultant (OS/2, Lan, Wan, CTI)
Serenity Systems Channel Partner
IBM Certified Systems Expert - OS/2 Warp 4


email: cstumpf@monmouth.com
phone: (323)707-4410

Bob Martin wrote:
it has been to late, since he tried to sell his last underpants...

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 13:04:39 UTC, The OS/2 Guy <OS2Guy@WarpCity.com>
wrote:

Even MORE CRAP!

See:

http://tmfaq.servehttp.com/

--
From the eComStation 1.1 of Doug Bissett
doug dot bissett at attglobal dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 16:12:53 UTC, Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com>
wrote:

It was too late, YEARS ago. However, I will post this to you, and
others, who wish to comment on the situation:

Please, in the future, use a little respect for your fellow news
readers, and add the designation [FUD4] to the subject line, as I,
hopefully, remembered to do here, when replying to one of them, or
when discussing the "problem", and filter the FUD4 (you will easily
identify them, when they post), AND the FUD4 subject, to avoid even
seeing their crap. Also, try to refrain from quoting ANYTHING, that
they have to say. That will help to avoid the other problem (news
group noise). Many users really don't care anymore, and doing this,
helps to make this news group usable again.

Also, see:

http://tmfaq.servehttp.com/

if you don't know what all of this is about.

Thanks...
--
From the eComStation 1.1 of Doug Bissett
doug dot bissett at attglobal dot net
(Please make the obvious changes, to e-mail me)

please post his / her name?

To me, it seems to be too tiring to keep up this charade. His
persistence is definitely the OS/2 guy's strong point. I wonder why
this energy cannot be directed toward something useful?

I use eCS most of the time. I use OS/2 once in a while now. All of my
applications work in both. It is really hard to understand how any
human being with the ability to reason can make a claim that eCS is
anything other than OS/2 with (a few) additions.

====
The OS/2 Guy wrote:

In <1068495368.113433@ananke.eclipse.net.uk>, on 11/10/2003
at 09:16 PM, John Poltorak <jp@eyup.org> said:

Apparently, TM, who is a legend in his own mind, knows more about OS/2
than IBM or Irv Spalten[1]. Unfortunately, MR/2 ICE no longer allows
me to see his articles. ;-)

Basically 4.52 plus some service.

I'd like to know that myself. I'd like to see some of the available
open software installed automatically, and I'd like to see more of the
installed software on the desktop by default. I'd also like to see all
of the major OS/2 sites included in the bookmarks.

[1] Used to be an IBM point man for OS/2. Very helpful, very
knowledgeable and very polite. He contributed a lot to the
OS/2 community, and deserves better than the crap he's taken
from TM and his claque.


--
Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT

Unsolicited bulk E-mail will be subject to legal action. I reserve
the right to publicly post or ridicule any abusive E-mail.

Reply to domain Patriot dot net user shmuel+news to contact me. Do
not reply to spamtrap@library.lspace.org

The OS/2 Guy wrote:


If only it were as easy to shut YOUR ignorant flapping arsehole :-(

ames@deltrak.demon.co.uk (Andrew Stephenson) said:

Doesn't he have to click his red (actually pink) pumps together too?

For all his blather he talks about eCS more than anybody here, then
complains if anybody else talks about it.

Jim L

In <vxdsb.162$K6.120@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com>, on 11/11/2003
at 03:06 PM, Colin Campbell <cmcampb@adelphia.net_remove_this> said:


How about we solve the problem of you ecs shills in the OS2 newsgroups by
documenting the public business practices of owners -- and let the IRS
decided if it is a legitimate business? Once its gone -- and it will be
-- you ecs shills will finally leave the OS2 newsgroups alone.

Are you getting the message here colin, or are you still going to play ecs
shill here?