When OS/2 v2.0 was first released. IBM felt it was necessary to give
a gift package to the lucky purchasers in order to induce people to
take the leap. This package contained a video cartridge ("OS/2 2.0 -
Moving to the OS/2 Workplace Shell"), a Parker ballpoint pen, and a
mousepad (the latter two items decorated with a tasteful multicolored
OS/2 logo"). The pen and the mousepad are long gone, but I still have
the video cartridge.

I do not have a video tapedeck, and I never did: the tape has been
played exactly once, when I let a friend view it (he later went with
Windows anyay).

I am offering this fine example of late 20th Century cinematic art
FREE, GRATIS, for the cost of packing and shipping to your location.
Although I have no way to verify its condition, I have no reason to
think it is in anything its essentially virgin state. You would
receive it, of course, as is. (Insert here the usual boilerplate
disclaimers about such things as merchantability.)

If you would like to be the owner of this relative antique, tell me so
by sending me an email through the mailform on my website, which is
at: <http://www.hashkedim.com/form.html>.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

On Dec 2, 9:37 am, "Stan Goodman" <SPAM_FOI...@some.domain> wrote:
You could convert it over to a digital format (AVI, MPG, WMV, MP4,
DiVX, MKV, DV, DVD, PSP or Flash) and offer it for free download to
those with an interest, although I'm not sure you can do the capture
and conversion easily with OS/2. I perform VHS conversions (VHS to
digital format) often using EyeTV. EyeTV allows me to simply play the
video and make an exact duplicate then offers the ability to edit the
captured video to remove any imperfections or unwanted frames. Once
captured it can then be exported to any digital format.

It would be cool to see it up on YouTube.

Is that beyond your scope, Stan? If you could get it into digital
format then you'd save the shipping fees and be able to distribute it
throughout the OS/2 community easily. Are there any other volunteers?

Dr. Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Visit The OS/2 Guy Blog Today
http://www.os2guy.com

Here in comp.os.os2.misc,
"Stan Goodman" <SPAM_FOILER@some.domain> spake unto us, saying:

Heh. I just found my copy of that same tape a month or so ago while I
was unpacking some boxes. I've not viewed it yet, but just seeing it
brought back some very good (and a few bad) memories. :-)

--
-Rich Steiner >>>---> http://www.visi.com/~rsteiner >>>---> Mableton, GA USA
Mainframe/Unix bit twiddler by day, OS/2+Linux+DOS hobbyist by night.
WARNING: I've seen FIELDATA FORTRAN V and I know how to use it!
The Theorem Theorem: If If, Then Then.

On Sun, 2 Dec 2007 17:37:21 UTC, "Stan Goodman"
<SPAM_FOILER@some.domain> wrote:

<snip>
I like this concept of "relative antique". In California, I think
anything more than 10 years old might qualify, though I suspect that in
your part of the world, the number would be two orders of magnitude
larger. Thanks for the chuckle.

--
Fred Blau
(Change "NOSPAM@" to "systematics@" in my e-mail address)

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 01:45:12 UTC, rsteiner@visi.com (Richard Steiner)
opined:
As I said, I've viewed the tape only once, and that many moons ago.
But according to my recollection of it, seeing it again will cause you
to sigh in regret for What Might Have Been, to make a voodoo doll of
the IBM honcho that made the decision to ditch OS/2, and to stick pins
in it daily.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 11:06:12 UTC, "Fred Blau" <NOSPAM@verizon.net>
opined:
As Einstein has told us, everything is relative: I have an aunt of age
103 (still drives her car ... but not fast). She is therefore my
relative antique.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

On Mon, 3 Dec 2007 23:42:17 UTC, "Stan Goodman"
<SPAM_FOILER@some.domain> wrote:

Double chuckle!

--
Fred Blau
(Change "NOSPAM@" to "systematics@" in my e-mail address)

What we need is someone to make a movie video out of this.

Rich W.


Stan Goodman wrote:

On Dec 3, 4:21 pm, Rich Wonneberger <tur...@frontiernet.net> wrote:
That was my suggestion but alas, I don't think anyone using OS/2 has
the capability to do so. How sad.

Dr. Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Visit The OS/2 Guy Blog Today
http://www.os2guy.com

Hi Rich

Rich Wonneberger wrote:


I'm not that up on making a "movie video" myself...

I do have a bit of hardware that I suspect would be potentially useful:
a dvd/vcr combo recorder. It is very capable of turning vhs tapes into
dvd recordings.

Having created a "dvd version" I guess I then need some software to
convert dvd into mpg/avi/wmv or similar formats?


Regards

Pete

(c) The OS/2 Guy (c) wrote:
All that would be needed would be simple video capture and
digitilization. EmperoarTV will do that on OS/2. The bigger problem
might be finding equipment to play the tape and output the video to the
computer so that it can be captured, especially if it is in a
little-used format like 8mm, Beta, or VHS-C.

http://shop.mensys.nl/catalogue/mnl_EmperoarTV.html



--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a

On Tue, 04 Dec 2007 08:22:51 -0800, David T. Johnson <djohnson@isomedia.com>
wrote:

I believe the OP said it was VHS. I can't really believe it would be anything
else.
Much more to the point is what format the recording is in. Is it so called
PAL (625/50) or so called NTSC (525/60)?

On Dec 4, 12:11 pm, Paul Ratcliffe <ab...@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78>
wrote:
It sounds simple enough but under OS/2 it may be way over the heads of
people as erudite as the senior Stan Goodman. You'd have to have
installed a video card capable of capturing video then you'd have to
buy and install the software (Emperoar TV) so that it actually works
with your VCR. EmperorTV was always a hit/miss situation. Is the VCR
a three-way RCA connection or does it have S-Video capability? Are
cables available for the VCR to connect and will they work with the
video card and the software cohesively?

Under OS X it is a piece of cake. You plug in a tiny little thing
about the size of a thumb drive into a USB port. Its called an EyeTV
Hybrid and it works on laptops and desktops. Connect your VCR with
either or both sets of cables noted above directly to the Hybrid's
port connections (RCA and/or S-Video), install the free EyeTV software
and start the video. Click record and when the video is finished you
stop the recording. You can then take the digital recording and edit
it quite easily (using the EyeTV software feature for editing so easy
a child can do it) pulling out a frame from here or there, if need be,
then hit the export button to convert the DV format into AVI, MPG,
WMV, MP4, DiVX, MPG, MPEG, PSP, MKV, Flash, H.264 or a full fledged
DVD.

Ok. There you go. You can then slap it on a web page for auto-play
display or offer it for download. I mean, Dear God, Mac's were made
for movie making graphical arts. That's their forte. Today, once you
have the video made you simply start iWeb (a web page publisher),
click your spot on the page, hit the video insert button, and all the
html coding and the video are inserted. Push the publish button and
presto - it's on the web ready for play or download.

I just don't see it being that easy with OS/2. And the quality is
another factor. If you understand Progressive Scanning,
Deinterlacing, two-pass recording and various audio formats you can
create a better video then what you had on the VHS using EyeTV because
there is no other company that offers that kind of encoding in their
software programs.

It reminds me much of CD/DVD making under OS/2 - wait, can you even
make a DVD today? I remember paying oodles of bucks for RSJ and
generating more coasters then I care to think about then switching to
CDRecord and becoming a full Nerd Wizard from the command line and yet
still having luck only 50% of the time. Today I never give it a
second thought with Toast and OS X. Toast even comes with an option
to deep read a scratched and/or marred disk, it will compress down a
multi-gig movie extracted from a commercial DVD to fit nicely on a
4.4G blank DVD without loss of sound or video quality. Or put the
whole thing on a DVD-DL! (Funny story here ... I always believed a
DVD-DL meant that you would get a blank DVD that would record on two
sides - how else would they get 8Gig on one DVD? Owning so many Macs
I thought it wise to backup my OS X disk that accompanies every Mac
delivery (OS X is already installed, the disk is just a backup in case
you should ever need it). So I tried making a duplicate of the disk
using Toast but it said there was too much data on the original OS X
disk to fit on a blank DVD. I go to the Mac Forums and ask what I
should do and duh... I got a gaggle of responses telling me to buy a
blank DVD-DL. Ok but I still think that DVD-DL is double sided and I
wonder if Toast is going to fill up one side then tell me to flip it
over. I have two SuperDrives (DVDRoms) and I put the OS X disk in
one, turn on Toast and it tells me to stick in a blank DVD-DL in
SuperDrive II. 9 minutes later Toast "Dings" and the copy is made.
So I read the DVD-DL package and realize then that a DVD-DL is just
one big DVD - capable of recording over 8Gig of data on a DVD-DL
disk. The things you learn...)

BTW, I will be selling my (3Ghz, 4TerayByte, 8G0RAM, built-in Airport
Express, and high end ATI graphics card with 512mb memory) Mac Pro on
eBay (unless someone wants to make me a decent offer) when the new
Penryn Mac Pros are announced by Apple (probably as early as February
or late as April). The increase in speed and power of the new Penryn
Mac Pros is about 20% but it is likely that the new Penryn Mac Pros
will come with a Blu-Ray DVDRom, even two Blu-Rays if you feel the
need. Here's a snap of the new Penryn: http://www.os2guy.com/penryn.jpg
- you see those four items just above the center there? Those are
trays. Each tray slides out and accepts a 1TB hard drive. Slide it
back in and it connects. I have this same machine today except Dual-
Core Xeon 3Ghz chips instead of the newer Penryn. To the right of
those chips reside the Ram trays. You can slide in 4Gig modules for a
total of 32Gig of RAM. What on earth would you do with that kind of
RAM? I have just 8Gig which is plenty. (When my broadband serviceman
came out to set me up he stood back in amazement and remarked that
"even NASA doesn't use such big machines!" I thought that was funny.
And above the RAM sits the ATI X1900 graphics card - the highest Apple
offers. It comes with 512MB of RAM and currently runs two 30" HD
Apple Cinema displays that work as one 60" HD display. That is awe-
inspiring and it blows me away! It was that graphics card that
resulted in my back-level from Leopard to Tiger. A week later Apple
instructed me to install a small utility to manage the fan on that ATI
card and my system now purrs with Leopard, the card staying at a low
95degrees. It went as high as 150degrees and they system would just
stop.

So, can you blame me for leaving OS/2 for OS X? I've just rambled,
haven't I? Sorry - but its lunch time and with free WiFi it is much
too easy to ramble... LOL!

I would offer my services of video conversion for free but know it
would take a cold day in hell for Stan Goodman to set aside his
bigotry and hatred, even if it meant helping the OS/2 community at
large. How sad.

Dr. Tim Martin, The OS/2 Guy
Visit The OS/2 Guy Blog Today
http://www.os2guy.com

Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
EmperoarTV will accept either PAL or NTSC input by selecting the
appropriate radio button on the 'video input' tab of the 'settings' menu
notebook.

--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a

(c) The OS/2 Guy (c) wrote:
EmperoarTV will work with the video input accepted by whatever supported
PVR card is being used, S-video and/or composite video. Perhaps other
software is, subjectively, easier to use but the video conversion can be
done on OS/2.
--
Posted with OS/2 Warp 4.52
and Sea Monkey 1.5a

On Dec 4, 2:44 pm, "David T. Johnson" <djohn...@isomedia.com> wrote:
Great! I hope it makes it to the airwaves soon! I'd love to see it!

Tim...

Sir:

Peter Brown wrote:
Nah, just copy the DVD as an ISO image. CD Audio Data Creator can do
this, along about half dozen other tools.
--
Bill
Thanks a Million!

On Tue, 4 Dec 2007 20:11:56 UTC, Paul Ratcliffe
<abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> opined:
The TV standard in Israel is PAL, and that is what the tape is.

Sorry I neglected to say that. When I posted, I first looked at the
box and the cassette to see what standards are called out, but there
is no mention of any at all. Never having had any contact at all with
tapes, I assumed it must be self-evident. Now a Google search assures
me that the tape standard here is PAL.

Do I understand correctly that there is a move to multiplicate the
tape on DVD? I'm all for that. I would want a copy for myself.

--
Stan Goodman
Qiryat Tiv'on
Israel

On 12/04/07 09:19 pm, William L. Hartzell wrote:
Hmm, the message you're replying to never showed up here.
Anyways FFmpeg and/or mencoder are quite capable of converting a dvd
into most any other format. Worth considering to bring the file size
down for those of us with low bandwidth
Dave

Hi Stan

Stan Goodman wrote:


I don't mind having a go at putting this tape onto dvd and possibly
using FFmpeg or similar to convert into mpg/avi/wmv

However, you are in Israel and I'm in the UK; might be worth me checking
for a local copy with the OS2-UK group before discussing postage etc.


Regards

Pete