If an ISP supplies an ADSL modem as part of the package, will it have an
ethernet port? - I ask because an earlier thread suggested you might only get a
USB connection, and I prefer not to use USB on my daughter's Win98SE machine P2
166Mhz. - I am intending to use a wireless router anyway but I suspect routers
don't routinely have USB ports.

JPG

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 13:04:01 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Almost certainly just a USB port.

JPG wrote:
What modem you get and what facilities it offers is up to the individual
ISP. They are likely to change the model and specification as time goes by.

So you could ask them or buy a router.

Typically no.

You shouldn`t need one if you`re connecting wirelessly - get a wireless
network card :-}

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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:03:39 +0000, Steve Pearce <*stevepearce@btinternet.com*>
wrote:

How can I plug that into a wireless router if it doesn't have a USB port? Can
you get USB - RJ45 converters?

JPG

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:06:33 -0000, Colin Wilson <void@btinternet.com> wrote:

But how do I connect from modem to router if the modem only has USB output?

I have wireless network capability in the PC and also a WinXP latop.

JPG

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 14:36:20 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote:

haven't then it'd best for you to purchase your own combined ADSL
modem/wireless router and then your lan could just interface with the
modem/router wirelessly

If you already have a wireless router (and you want to keep it) then what you
basically need to do is get yourself an ADSL modem that has an ethernet port.
Most ISPs supply ADSL modems with a USB port, as it's easier for the end user
to configure. Most people who want a lan setup usually just ignore the ISP
supplied modem and get their own preferred make/model.

You can't, as far as i know, get a `reverse' USB - ethernet adapter, i.e. one
that plugs into the USB port of the modem, to convert the modems USB port to
ethernet.

Clansman


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On 07/03/05, 14:24:07, JPG <me@privacy.net> wrote regarding Re: ADSL modem
question:


Most ADSL routers including wireless routers have a built in modem, so
you just put the supplied usb modem in a drawer some where as a backup.

Regards Ian Donaldson

Newtownards
Northern Ireland
ian@dsd-tech.net

USB modems are controlled by a PC. They need a PC for power and to
supply connection settings.


Ethernet type modem / routers can store their own configuration
settings and connect independently of what your pcs are doing.


If you want your laptop to connect to BB and don't want to have to
switch on your desktop machine just to do it then buy a adsl modem /
router combo.

On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 15:51:26 +0000, silangdon <me@you.twang> wrote:

I have a wireless router, but it will not be much use if the modem only uses
USB. Seems like I will need to buy a modem with ethernet or an ADSL modem
wireless router.

JPG

Now you can see why they are free.....

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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 17:04:16 +0000, JPG <me@privacy.net> strung
together this:

Correct.

Correct.

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"JPG" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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To recap on other postings:

USB modems will only work when connected to a USB port on an intelligent
device which has modem drivers for that specific USB modem.
Effectively this will only be a PC - it is far easier for router
manufacturers to put the ADSL modem inside their box than to provide
external support for one or more USB modems.

Enticing though it is to hope that if you connect the wires together via an
'adapter' then somehow magically completely different connection types will
somehow 'work' together, this rarely happens in real life. USB and Ethernet
are not the same thing.
Think about the old style external modems with a serial cable to your PC
serial port - you couldn't connect these to an Ethernet network with a
simple adapter without using a PC either.

Where you see mention of an 'ADSL modem with an Ethernet port' this is in
fact a single port ADSL modem/router.
Four port modem/routers are more common, however they are usually the same
as the single port ones but with a mini Ethernet hub built in.
You get the same effect by connecting an external 4 (or more) port Ethernet
hub/switch to your single port router..
The four ports are not independant devices which can each be handled
differently by the router (worse luck).
Wireless support just gives you an extra connection option (which is nice).

When looking at routers you must beware of the terminology.

A 'Broadband Router' usually has nothing in it to deal with broadband - it
just has a single Ethernet port on one network (WAN side) and one or more
Ethernet ports on the other network (LAN side). It may also have wireless
support for a wireless LAN.
It is in fact an Ethernet/wireless router and you can use it even if you
don't have Broadband.

You need to look for an ADSL router - and double check that it does include
an ADSL modem.
Apart from anything else it will make your installation vastly more secure
than connecting a USB modem directly to a PC.

As suggested by other posters, treat the USB modem as an amusing desktop
toy, and get yourself an ADSL modem/router.

If you already have a router without an ADSL modem then you only need a
single port router although if the router of choice only comes in the 4 port
variety then this is NOT a problem :-)


Hope this has helped instead of just confusing more :-)

Cheers

Dave R

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 04:00:27 +0000, Lurch
<theoriginallurch@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

or a router that can accept a USB modem connection. There's a few out
there.

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 13:00:04 GMT, Mark McIntyre
<markmcintyre@spamcop.net> wrote:

One suspects they cost more than a basic ADSL router and are a pig to
set up. But I have been wrong before... :-)

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:07:39 +0000, silangdon <me@you.twang> wrote:

indeed. On the other hand, if your existing modem doesn't do ethernet
it might be worth it.

no idea about that.

silangdon wrote:
How about this, 26ish quid from EBuyer

http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/produ...duct_uid=48448


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"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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Not enough in the detail to explain
"Simultaneous Ethernet and USB operation"
but I would suspect that this means that you can connect a PC to the
modem/router via USB and/or Ethernet.
I don't think it implies that you can connect a USB modem.
Why would you want to anyway, when there is a built in USB modem?

As stated elsewhere, a simple modem/router (such as this one) will almost
certainly be cheaper than a router which will support an external USB modem
(if you can find one).
So just buy a modem/router - cheaper and easier all round.

HTH
Dave R