- Am I LLU?
- Posted by Grumps on May 26th, 2008
Hi All
I have been with my current ISP for a number of years and have had a nice
stable rate of about 6500k down, 448k up.
I now notice that my down rate is 5500k but the up rate is over 700k. Is
this an indication that I've been LLU'd?
If so, what're the downsides of this (apart from a lower download rate that
I'm experiencing) ?
Ta.
- Posted by Andy Burns on May 26th, 2008
On 26/05/2008 14:07, Grumps wrote:
Either that, or you're on an ADSL Max Premium product.
- Posted by Section 31T on May 26th, 2008
"Grumps" <nothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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This will tell you if your exchange is LLU enabled.
http://www.samknows.com/broadband/checker2.php
- Posted by Bob Eager on May 26th, 2008
On Mon, 26 May 2008 13:29:17 UTC, "Section 31T"
<Section31T@spamplease.co.uk> wrote:
BUT...will not tell you for certain if you've been LLU'd. If it isn't
enabled, you are not LLU'd. If it is, you *might* be..
--
Bob Eager
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org
- Posted by Grumps on May 26th, 2008
"Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Thanks. My exchange has been LLU'd for a while.
Are ISPs allowed to swap you to their LLU stuff without asking, and is there
any negative aspects of LLU?
- Posted by Andy Burns on May 26th, 2008
On 26/05/2008 18:57, Grumps wrote:
Tiscali do (they own the broadband parts of Pipex too)
- Posted by Paul Cupis on May 26th, 2008
Grumps wrote:
Unless your contract/terms of service specifically preclude them from
doing so, yes.
- Posted by Eeyore on May 26th, 2008
Andy Burns wrote:
Yup. Agreed.
Graham
- Posted by Eeyore on May 26th, 2008
Grumps wrote:
So ot seems.
It may be more difficult to change ISP and might conceivably cost £47. Not
certain what Ofcom has done to address this. You'll certainly get a longer 'down
time'.
Graham
- Posted by Grumps on May 26th, 2008
"Paul Cupis" <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well, the T&Cs say that they can do WTF they like, but will give 30 days
notice. They haven't.
- Posted by Paul Cupis on May 26th, 2008
Grumps wrote:
I haven't seen the specific T&Cs you/they are bound to, so these are
general comments.
I would be surprised if changing the wholesaler for a ADSL service
constituted a material change in the service an ISP is providing, unless
such a change led to a drastically reduced quality of service or a
significant period of downtime.
Some will argue that if the subscriber subsequently wanted to move to
another ISP who used a different wholesaler that that ISP incurs a
higher charge than if you migrated between ISPs on the same wholesaler,
and that the ISP may pass this charge in part or whole onto the
subscriber, but that is between the subscriber and the new ISP, not the
old ISP.
For reference, the BTwholesale charge (to the gaining SP) to migrate
between ISPs is £11. The Openreach charge to move from one wholesaler to
another (SMPF) is £34.86, to cease a line is £4.90. BTwholesale charge
the same as Openreach to "activate" ADSL on a line (either a line with
no ADSL on previously, or a line moving from another wholesaler to
BTwholesale).
Regards,
- Posted by kraftee on May 27th, 2008
Eeyore wrote:
As far as OFCOM is concerned it should be no more difficulty in migrating a
LLU service than the older BT carrier based ones. How the service providers
look at it could be another matter.
- Posted by PlusNet Support Team on May 27th, 2008
Grumps wrote:
What ISP are you with?
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|Support Home & Business @
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- Posted by Grumps on May 27th, 2008
PlusNet Support Team wrote:
Nildram, but I'm billed by Pipex Business. I think it's all owned by Tiscali
now.
- Posted by PlusNet Support Team on May 27th, 2008
Grumps wrote:
Judging by the post below, you should be able to find out by checking
your upgrade options whilst logged into your account:
http://bbs.adslguide.org.uk/showthre...Number=3360804
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- Posted by Far on May 27th, 2008
"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:483B0585.EC8E6487@hotmail.com...
I migrated last year from Nildram (LLU) to Be (LLU) and the downtime using a
MAC number was the grand total of under 10 minutes. Have things changed
recently?
--
Far
- Posted by kraftee on May 27th, 2008
Far wrote:
It can as smoothly as that or be far more difficult depending on who you're
leaving & who you're moving to...
The direction of the wind may also have some effect as well ;-)

