As in can it be a symptom of a router on the way out ?

also - whats a very good adsl router with wireless ?

bit confused if some if the belkins are propriatary with their
clever wireless features

tx

mar wrote:
Belkins are shite, by all accounts some of the newer ones arent as bad, but
they have a very very high failure rate.

Stick with a netgear, more reliable and stable on long lines...


Gaz

Gaz wrote:
Netgear one.

You'd think after 4 years it might have gone tits up, but no, it's still
doing a job.

Steve Olive wrote:
And some of the nuclear power reactors in the old USSR didnt explode, but
that doesnt make them safe and reliable.

Gaz

Gaz wrote:

I've just changed from Linksys to Netgear. Constantly having to re-boot
the router to correct DNS issues even with latest firmware and the
WPN311 wireless adaptors cause two PC's to randomly re-boot (driver
problems are discussed on Netgear's support forum) I wish I had replaced
the faulty power adaptor for the Linksys router because it worked
flawlessly for three years before the power adaptor gave out.

Martyn

Count de Monet wrote:

Is anything stopping you from replacing the power supply now ?

Graham

Eeyore wrote:
Yes, all of the new gear I've purchased

Count wrote on Thu, 15 Mar 2007 08:10:49 +0000:

Another "Netgear with DNS issues" post I see. Have you tried entering the
ISP DNS server IPs manually in the config? It passes them to the PCs then,
so they bypass the router DNS proxy and since I've done this on both of my
Netgears I haven't had a single DNS issue.

Dan

Spack wrote:
Why not program them directly into each PC (plus a few extra to make sure),
works even better...

kraftee wrote on Thu, 15 Mar 2007 23:05:15 -0000:

Until you need to change them, and then have to update each PC. By having
the router pass them out via DHCP it simplifies the admin, and gives the
same result.

Dan

Spack wrote:
Yes but how many DNS servers can you program into a router?

The most I've seen is 2, you can have far more than that by inputing them
into each PC which gives you more resilience than depending on the 2 (or
even just 1) supplied by your ISP. Also if you are routing certain traffic
to specific machines it would be better to run with fixed IP anyway...

kraftee wrote on Fri, 16 Mar 2007 15:47:37 -0000:

In they years I've had broadband (originally with Pipex, then Plusnet, and
now Sky), I don't remember have both ISP supplied DNS servers not
responding.

As to routing traffic, I try not to run publicly accessible services on my
home LAN. That's what I have dedicated hosting for elsewhere

But you're right, in some circumstances it is better to have fixed IPs and
set up the DNS servers manually on the hosts on the LAN, but for simple
internet connections from home DHCP just makes life that little bit simpler.

Dan

"kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
news:etee74$tbr$1@news.datemas.de...

If you're having to "hardwire" the IP settings of your PCs then your setup
needs looking at by someone that knows what they are talking about.

Any decent ISP will use DHCP to issue DNS settings to the router, you
shouldn't need to enter DNS server addresses at all - even on the router.

--
Rich

Rich wrote:
Go back & read what was written, if you're routing traffic to specific
machines on your network it is better to use fixed IP, even though DHCP is,
to an extent, sticky. If you use fixed IP then it's only a very small step
to add the odd extra DNS servers or 3.
Go back & read the thread before jumping in with your size 10's....

Yes your ISP may allocate you an IP for a DNS server (maybe 2 if you're
really lucky) but what happens if they go of air because ....the cleaners
unplugged them to plug her hoover in or to make a cup of tea, there is a
power outage at the site, etc etc etc, even down to the DNS server just
being unpredictable/unstable. How do you get around those types of problems
without configuring other public DNS servers in your network settings?

One of the ISPs I have been with over the years was particularly bad, so the
users (using common sense) programed other DNS servers to get around the
problem. So you can't say it doesn't happen. If you feel all nice & cosey
letting which ever ISP you are with having the complete control of your
connection fine, but personally I prefer to have a back up for possible
problems where I can do so & all it takes it's a very small effort. Hell
I've even had problems with my present ISP when I didn't have any extra
servers input, now the only problem is the pop servers going up & down like
a slow surge pump (& I'd already go that one covered before I had even
joined them).

Live in the real world & prepare to face possible problems instead of
relying on everything running perfectly & then complaining when they don't.

On 16 Mar 2007, "kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:

Yes, I've seen 2 as a common limit on routers, but have also see settings
such as "user defined + ISP provided" on some routers, so a couple of my
entries will be used in preference to those from the ISP


Yes, DHCP is something I am happy to avoid. However, I can see that using
my choice of DNS plus the IP for my router (which then adds 2 to 4 further
DNS entries) is one way to improve reliability...

Rich wrote:
ITYM PPP.

NoNeedToKnow wrote:
Thank you for that. The latest ISP I'm with lock you down to using a
specific router & when I've refered to that as a DNS it fails completely, so
I can't even have that luxury. Nope I just program the 6 or so I've
accumalated over the years (& which still work) into my network settings &
off I go.

At least we know when we get a 404 there is a very good chance it doesn't
exist...

kraftee wrote:

Worth knowing - that will help me if my sister has a problem (months
until her exchange gets enabled - she's quite happy with Plusnet now)

would appreciate a note of those - via e-mail - or just a brief mail
message and I'll let you know the ones I have, in case you think I'm
bluffing TiA

kraftee wrote on Sat, 17 Mar 2007 15:55:47 -0000:

Sky by any chance? Me too. It's easy enough to adjust that setting though,
and set up your own DNS servers in the router

Dan