Hi,

Are these figures likely to allow me to get 2MBit connection?

ADSL Link : Downstream : Upstream

Connection Speed 1152kbps 288kbps
Line Attenuation 46db 12.5db
Noise Margin 21db 28db

Thanks Dave

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:53:16 -0000, "Dave" <moss876@nospamhere.net>
wrote:

its the checker that decides. The attenuation is too high for current
BT 2M product but the checker may think its OK - it would work.

Phil
--
http://www.notspot.info/ - if you can't get the Broadband you want.

In message <43qhbcF1o0q96U1@individual.net>, Dave
<moss876@nospamhere.net> writes
I just get message on the BT info page to say I can may be get ADSL at
512 or 256 and an engineer may be required due to line length.
I can see the exchange from my house its in centre of 4miles away but
the line is 6.4 miles I have been getting 450 cps on the PLUSNET speed
tester but it has fallen lower than this 390 some times this past month
Regards and sorry if I have intruded
UNHAPPY BUNNIE

--
Ronald Jones

On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 23:53:16 -0000, "Dave" <moss876@nospamhere.net>
wrote:


Unfortunately your attenuation of 46dB is just outside BT's limit of
43dB for a 2mbps service.

Sorry :/

James Bailey
PlusNet/Metronet Comms

Ronald Jones wrote:

Various routers will display this info. USB modems might show
it too, but everything depends on the equipment you are using.

http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm may help you out
(not my site, but also, not limited to the Alcatel 'frog')

In article <43qhbcF1o0q96U1@individual.net>, moss876@nospamhere.net
says...
Yes. The limit is 45dBm /without/ ADSL on the line. Take off ADSL from
your line and your atten is around 40/41 dBm.

Also, my friends line atten is 49dBm and they have 2mbit no problems.

So, place the order and find out

In article <t95ht1lvuvr1u7t2av5eg6k42ba9s8s4qv@4ax.com>,
phil.thompson@spamcop.net says...
That's not true, is it? If you go with a decent ISP, they will put
through a manual order with BT and /force/ them to physically go out and
check your line (ie, try and complete the order) for 2mbit quality.

In article <boeht1dqj9hvpjje4umt5d8i155j2vdqgu@4ax.com>,
jbailey@plus.net says...
Hi James,

Is it 43dBm? Thought it was 45? Either way, i reckon they'd connect
him.

In article <boeht1dqj9hvpjje4umt5d8i155j2vdqgu@4ax.com>,
jbailey@plus.net says...

Oh, to add to that - my line atten is 45dbm and i have 2mbit, no
problems (with Zen).

His SNR will still be around 14 if he gets upgraded to 2Mb so should work
flawlessly. However his attenuation is slightly above BT's conservative
limits so he might have a problem getting them to upgrade to 2Mb. Might have
to request a manual order.

Dan

for an upgreade to 2Meg.


Downstream Upstream
SNR Margin 35.8 21.0 dB
Line Attenuation 30.9 19.0 dB

In article <43d9357e$0$1488$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
kraftee@pleasedon'tspam says...
...it's what Zen did for me. The checker said i couldn't get 2mbit. I
said i damn well could (i was right, thankfully - my blag paid off!) and
a manual order was raised for BT to go and try to connect me to 2mbit -
which they duly did.

In article <43d93cc1$0$1448$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>,
danman7_200NOSPAM@yahoo.com says...
BT's limits are woeful

On bulldog on a line atten of 44dBm (my atten) I can get a 6mbit
connection - works fine - yet on BTW (zen) I can only just get 2mbit.

I understand why BT do it, but them sticking rigidly to their - already
low - limits serves no purpose than to fuck us off more.

Chris wrote:
Openreach has been operational "on the streets" from the start of
January, so was your Zen "manual order" prior to this ? If so it
is no longer guaranteed to be done, based on what someone working
for them now states to be the directive. Peter M.

In article <43d9449b$0$1477$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net>, us-
mail@rocketmail.com says...
Nope. Early jan.

I completely agree; however, doesn't mean it's not worth a go

In article <ipfit11ed6a8vavrodibvcs1mjnpp1417i@4ax.com>,
nospam@nospam.please says...

Yes, apply for 2mbit and enjoy your new speed!

Chris wrote:
But if there had been a problem you wouldn't have got the visit. It
worked for you so I'm happy but there have been a largish number of
users being upgraded outside the set limits & having problems. These
people used to get visits & the field engineers used to do their best
(indeed it was called best efforts) to get the customer working but
after around a month or so of the upgrading starting (yes that long
ago) a memo came down from on high stating that the field engineers
must not visit under those circumstances but refer them to the
appropiate department, They even made up a nice new clear code as
well, just in case the field engineers were actually issued such a job
& they were & still do occaisionally.

"Chris" <see@reply.to.field> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e43523ff5f2b5a298971d@news.clara.net...

They can ill afford to f**k us off any more. They are already losing loads
of customers to cheaper phone call providers and VoIP.

We are soon to be getting wireless broadband in this area, much faster than
these wired landline silly limits.

"Chris" <see@reply.to.field> wrote in message
news:MPG.1e43371c8bf1b279989719@news.clara.net...
Actually not true, Openreach have been told not to attend any upgrade
problems, they are all to be reffered to a department in BT Broadband
Assurance.

I like the thought though, it would keep me happily busy for days..

David wrote:
It doesn't matter if a lot of people start to use cheap call routing
or even VOIP, somewhere along the line (quite literally in most cases)
it will still be using BT's network & so BT will still be getting a
cut & be smiling.