- can I use broadband to link two sites
- Posted by Jim Arnold on August 20th, 2003
The small firm I work for is about to move
They may be split across two sites for a few months(which may stretch
to years !)
How feasible is it to use broadband to link the two networks - 6 users
at each site - not a lot of traffic ?
Both sites need internet access anyway.
- Posted by Kraftee on August 20th, 2003
Jim Arnold wrote:
Yes it is possible to connect them via a VPN...
But it will have to be explained by a more knowledgable person tham
me, I just know that it can work..
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- Posted by MaSTeR on August 21st, 2003
yes a Virtual Private Network is what you need. Just Google it
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- Posted by Alastair on August 21st, 2003
"Jim Arnold" <jim.arnold@tesco.net> wrote in message
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Yes, but there are caveats.
A VPN (virtual private network) will do the job. A pair
of Vigor 2600 routers will set up a VPN easily and fairly
cheaply.
The main caveat is that it is a lot slower than a LAN. Your
LAN is probably 100Mbps, your VPN will be 0.25Mbps,
ie 4,000 times slower.
Some jobs will be fine over a link this much slower, others
will be awful to the point of unusability.
A solution would be to run a Terminal Server on one site
and have the users on the other site connect to that and run
their programs on it. The bandwidth required of a TS
session is miniscule compared to the bandwidth that can
be required by many apps. We have ADSL connections
supporting up to 15 TS users with good performance.
If the above is just technobabble to you I would
recommend engaging a competent firm of network
engineers to ensure that all goes well.
- Posted by Maximilian K. on August 22nd, 2003
"Alastair" <email@address.invalid> wrote in message
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While routers are great to have, but just standard Win2K servers with
Routing & Remote Access service enabled on each end still would do the VPN
trick.
If each site uses ISA server as gateway, ISA provides VPN connection wizard.
You stated it exactly - 0.25Mbps, not 0.5 - the link is asymmetric and the
smaller of up/down streams will go only.
If as said before there would be not a lot of traffic this may be a good
solution.
May benefit by having a symmetric DSL but I'm absolutely not sure they would
be available in your area.
It costs more as well, over hundred pounds - I believe BT does the trials
only currently.
Plus VPN encapsulation imposes an overhead, so real speed will be even
slower, I think down to 200 kbit/sec which makes it 20-25 kbyte/sec real
file transfer. One megabyte will take 40-50 seconds to flow over network.
Upload speed is a limiting factor here.
I agree fully. A very viable solution.
Our company runs an application that doesn't work very well across the
network - on a TS server.
The (quite aged already) Dell server runs 1GB memory and dual P-III 550 - no
slowdown, works like a charm.
Average load is 60 users at a time. Link between UK and States for this
application is 2 MBit/sec and average load is 300-400 kbit/sec, but - it's
60 users, not 6.
Hope this helps to get an estimate.
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- Posted by PH on August 22nd, 2003
There could be other ways to do this if the two sites have "Line of Sight"
to each other.
Phill H
- Posted by kevin bailey on August 22nd, 2003
hi there,
i have this working between my office and three different client's site's.
solution was...
each site has a compaq deskpro 4000 - we pick them up for £30 (thirty)
each. other than that brand new silent VIA based machines should be about
£220.
set up the ADSL routers (solwise SAR715's) to have zipb enabled.
installed ipcop (free license) on each of the compaqs.
set up virtual private networks (VPNs).
a major advantage of this is that your networks are protected behind ipcop
- so - for instance - you would be safe from the msblast worm. ipcop is a
high quality firewall/gateway and your users would be able to browse the
internet safely.
most competent network engineers should be able to set this up - i took 6
hours to set up two machines from scratch.
total cost approx £400.
you'll need to have BB set up with static IP addresses.
be careful RE using windows VPN - its not the same as IPSEC VPN. also,
windows security is being shown to be lacking - something some of us have
predicted for a while now,
HTH,
kev bailey
then installed ipcop
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