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CAT 6 from my house to Local exchange
Posted by Aosmosis on July 1st, 2006


Could I pay BT to install (or do it myself) CAT 6 cable from my house to the
exchange which is like 100m?

That way I could connect directly to the DSLAM and save money on my line
rental.

Anyone done anything similar?


Posted by R. Mark Clayton on July 1st, 2006



"Aosmosis" <spamp@spam.com> wrote in message
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BT will connect you at pretty much any speed you like.

Unfortunately for you the installation charges and rental are worked out the
average distance from a subscriber to the exchange (plus a fat profit)

This means that the fact that you are only 100m from the exchange is BT's
good fortune for building their exchange only 100m from your house rather
than yours for building (or buying) your house only 100m from the exchange.

BT will therefore charge you at their published rates - URL anyone...



Posted by Peter Crosland on July 1st, 2006


Either you are a troll or this takes my nomination for the most impractical
suggestion of the month. Even if you could persuade BT to allow you direct
access to their equipment, which has a very high improbablity factor, the
charge would be many times what you pay in lines rental.

Peter Crosland



Posted by jim on July 1st, 2006


On Sat, 1 Jul 2006 20:14:41 +0100, "Aosmosis" <spamp@spam.com> wrote:

run a 30A cable from the nearest 50KV pylon - who needs utility
companies, eh ?

jim

Posted by Owain on July 1st, 2006


jim wrote:
Don't be silly.

30A at 50kV would be rather excessive. 0.5mA should be enough for the
average household.

Owain


Posted by Rob on July 1st, 2006



"jim" <jmacduff9743@notthis.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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Shame you didn't live in Liverpool, some of the cable jointers working for a
now privatised company used to offer an unmetered feed to a second consumer
unit for £80. That was in the mid 80's early 90's. A number of substations
used to trip and/or burn out because of excessive loading so the electric
company fitted metering in the substations to compare with house readings.
Some naughty people were in to indoor gardening which meant expensive
lighting.
They used to dig down and join a new cable and fit it to a second consumer
unit. I've not seen it done with gas pipes!
It was a major investigation to trace cables and one installation was very
clever. With the switch to ON on the consumer unit it used the metered
supply. With the switch to OFF it used the unmetered.
So it has all been done before.
I have in the course of criminal investigations even seen people clipping a
phone on to their neighbours line.




Posted by Martyn Williams on July 2nd, 2006


In article <6YKdnc2hcZjMVjvZRVnyqQ@bt.com>, nospamclayton@btinternet.com
says...
I would think that it would be leased line prices so that makes it about
£4k/year for a 2Mb link

Posted by R. Mark Clayton on July 2nd, 2006



"Owain" <owain47125@stirlingcity.coo.uk> wrote in message
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Yes but if the juice is free, the beneficiary might decide to run their 1MW
pirate radio station...



Posted by R. Mark Clayton on July 2nd, 2006



"Rob" <rob2@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message news:vYCpg.64841

A TDR box and compare the results with what is supposed to be there -
shouldn't take too long.

No doubt with the switch worked into the door of the meter cuboard...



Posted by Allan on July 2nd, 2006



"jim" <jmacduff9743@notthis.hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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With the hot weather and hosepipe bans, perhaps a hose from the Lakes to
Kent? Of course, precautions would be needed against leakage....

Allan


Posted by JW on July 3rd, 2006


R. Mark Clayton wrote:
Are 3rd party SPs in BT exchanges obliged to use Openreach
network, or are they allowed to bring in their own?

I imagine they'd still want to sell a phone line.

Posted by R. Mark Clayton on July 3rd, 2006



"Allan" <aganderson@ukonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:44a8444f$0$3513$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net...
Manchester City Council got their first and built a >150km aqueduct from
Thirlmere to Manchester in the nineteenth century.



Posted by Allan on July 3rd, 2006



"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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Yes, I know, but I didn't know Manchester was in Kent.

Allan


Posted by robertharvey@my-deja.com on July 3rd, 2006


Allan wrote:
For some wierd reason Leeds castle is.


Posted by Dave Saville on July 3rd, 2006


On Sun, 2 Jul 2006 10:50:41 +0100, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

Many years ago one of our Seismic crews in Ireland needed some power at a base
camp. A little van turned up from the power company and the guy ran a cable
down from a nearby pole and fitted a double outlet on the end. On being asked
about meters/bills etc. he replied "Oh you won't be using *that* much" and
drove off.................

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Dave Saville

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Posted by Allan on July 3rd, 2006



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Posted by Bob Eager on July 4th, 2006


On Mon, 3 Jul 2006 22:33:05 UTC, "Allan" <aganderson@ukonline.co.uk>
wrote:

Funny you should say that...

1) On some websites, if I do searches for companies 'within 50 miles'
(I'm in east Kent) I am often given addresses in Yorkshire...

2) Not long ago, someone in a Kent tourism office deserved the sack.
They did a brochure that told people that Leeds Castle *was* in
Yorkshire.

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Posted by Owain on July 4th, 2006


Bob Eager wrote:
The Jobcentre site used to give me results "within 15 miles" which
included Norway, Dubai, and the Falklands.

Owain


Posted by Tim Clark on July 4th, 2006


In article <6YKdnc2hcZjMVjvZRVnyqQ@bt.com>,
"R. Mark Clayton" <nospamclayton@btinternet.com> writes:
Section 12 of the BT Price List gives the prices for Inland Private Circuits.
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/c...boo/sectoc.htm
Part 11 of that seems the most appropriate, short haul data services
http://www.serviceview.bt.com/list/c..._.boo/1309.htm

Assuming you're not greedy, and only want 100 Mbps, that's probably
£13.5k (+ VAT) for the install and then £8k annual rental. It only
gets you the 100m to the exchange, of course. You'll need to rent some
Internet service on top of that.

There are 1, 2.5 and 10 Gbps circuits available too, but much pricier.
The 10 Gps seem to cost so much that BT don't even state the price in
the Price List. (Perhaps the price has so many zeros after it, BT were
scared of creating a world shortage of zeros in web browsers :-)

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Tim Clark


Posted by Bob Eager on July 4th, 2006


On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 13:35:20 UTC, Owain <owain47125@stirlingcity.coo.uk>
wrote:

THat's daft. At least there's a twisted logic in my case...!

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