Absolutely not! It means just what it says i.e. that there is a degree of
doubt. The degree of doubt may be small but there is doubt i.e it is not a
certainty.

They may have or indeed thought they had. However, as I said before if is
not uncommon for large companies to get it wrong. You only have to look at
the high profile cases that appear in the papers when matters go to court.
Plenty more will have been quietly settled to avoid the inevitable bad
publicity. The fact remains that it is very seldom wise to dismiss someone
in such a way. Been there, done that, got the compensation!

That may or may not be true. I have never had any dealings with him. In any
case it is a complete red herring because is as entitled to his legal rights
just as anyone else is.

Peter Crosland

Tx2 wrote:

Yes *IT IS* !


That's what I damn well said. Can't you read ?


No it *COULDN'T* !

Graham

Tx2 wrote:

FYI.....

" Mr Strafford, alongside finance director Neil Comer, was unexpectedly dismissed
with immediate effect on Monday for misconduct. "

http://news.independent.co.uk/busine...cle2334958.ece

Do you wish to whine about anything else whilst you're at it ?

Graham

In article <MPG.205a7296628065e8989748@News.Individual.NET> , Tx2
<this.is.an.inv@lid.address.u.know.com> wrote:

The clear *implication* in both the Independent and FT stories is that
Strafford misused BT funds to set up a rival enterprise without BT's
authority. Strafford denies it of course but I would be surprised to
find that this is smoke without fire - especially given Strafford's
reputation as an arrogant chancer.

Stan

Tx2 wrote:

Tell me something.

Are you a fuckwit ?

Graham

mis·con·duct [n. mis-kon-duhkt; v. mis-kuhn-duhkt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
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–noun
1. improper conduct; wrong behavior.
2. unlawful conduct by an official in regard to his or her office, or by a person in
the administration of justice, such as a lawyer, witness, or juror; malfeasance.
–verb (used with object)
3. to mismanage.
4. to misbehave (oneself).
[Origin: 1700–10; mis-1 + conduct]

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Behavior not conforming to prevailing standards or laws; impropriety.
The act or an instance of adultery.
Dishonest or bad management, especially by persons entrusted or engaged to act on
another's behalf.
Deliberate wrongdoing, especially by government or military officials.

v. (m?s'k?n-d?ct')

tr.v. mis·con·duct·ed, mis·con·duct·ing, mis·con·ducts

To mismanage.
To behave (oneself) improperly.

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1710, "bad management, neglect;" see mis- (1) + conduct (n.). Meaning "wrong conduct"
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misconduct

noun
1. bad or dishonest management by persons supposed to act on another's behalf
2. activity that transgresses moral or civil law; "he denied any wrongdoing" [syn:
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verb
1. behave badly; "The children misbehaved all morning" [syn: misbehave] [ant: behave]
2. manage badly or incompetently; "The funds were mismanaged" [syn: mismanage]

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Stan The Man wrote:

" A source said that Mr Strafford and Mr Comer were dismissed after being
accused of plotting to establish a new business that would have been to the
detriment of Plusnet. "

It seems that Tx2 is reading-challenged.

Graham

Tx2 wrote:

Is your name Mystic Meg or something ? What's that crystal ball telling you ?

Yeah right. Any ignorant twat can speculate. How about you provide some facts
instead ?

Graham

On Wed, 7 Mar 2007 23:16:35 -0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Retired"
<anon@privacy.com> wrote:

Indeed. I strongly suspect he's been given the standard 3 months
notice, and has gone on "gardening leave", possibly with a sub judice
golden goodbye of some sort.

Absolutely.

Though I know of one sad case where the company decided they didn't
want the b*gger sitting on his ar*e during the summer chatting up
competitors, so they set him up an office sans phone or computer,
changed his security card to deny access to everything and forced him
to work his notice twiddling his thumbs. Argh.

--
Mark McIntyre

On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 17:48:46 +0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote:

Well, it could mean anything from groping his secretary's bum to
stealing biros to fiddling his expenses to doing an Enron. They didn't
say Gross misconduct, or negligence, so that rules out a few things I
guess.
--
Mark McIntyre

Eeyore wrote:
Trouble with that is that BT is very quick to strike & very often has
to retracted/back pedal if pushed. We recently had a case where 5
engineers where instantly dismissed (for time sheet/paperwork fraud).
Within 3 months they were all back in employment with BT (that is if
they wanted to come back) & since then all have been prgogressed up
the 'tree' so none of them are on the same grade as they were when
they were sacked. That's the positive side of having a very good
local Union rep.

kraftee wrote:

Dare I ask how they managed that ?

Graham

"kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
news:esrr2r$94n$1@news.datemas.de...
That's the positive side of having a very good

Waltzing ma ~

Eeyore wrote:
You didn't read my last sentence did you...

On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 15:02:56 -0000, "Peter Crosland"
<g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

A small degree of doubt is hardly the same as highly unlikely!
Opposite ends of the scale!

Yes - and likewise! Funny thing is, I got contracted to work back for
the same company when they took things back in house a few years ago!
I would imagine they will think twice about it again. That 5 figure
payout could go to 6 if they tried it on again!

Quite true. However, if he has broken his contract to earn instant
summary dismissal (which is what I am saying), then I'm quite happy! I
certainly wouldnt want him receiving large sums of cash for
compensation!

"Motion" <throwawayaccount0001@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:esln6r$su1$1@aioe.org...
Just the start of a well needed Cull I hope.

Next on the list should be Ian Wild, David Tomlinson and Neil Armstrong,
these were guys that wallowed in Plusnets bad era, have personal
recollections of David Tomlinson making it difficult for me to migrate out
of that hell ... *shudder* He really made it difficult for me and seemed to
take personal satisfaction in grinding my Plusnet service to dial up speeds
in my migration time when I talked back to him on Plusnets own forums ....
Bastard!!!

Oh lets not forget, the PUG need to go too, what a useless bunch of
teenagers and students grovelling for jobs at Plusnet, they are just puppets
with no customer interests whatsoever.

LOL, altogether now ..... He's got high hopes, he's got high hopes

LOL, its good to see that cunt squirming, what goes around comes around.

On 3ÔÂ7ÈÕ, ÏÂÎç2ʱ47·Ö, "Motion" <throwawayaccount0....@gmail.com> wrote:
Good!
http://fy4.net/03.htm

Look Peter ... who exactly are you trying to appease here?

Stafford was marched out of the building and told not to come back again, he
lost his job in disgrace and shame, and quite right too.

Deal with it fanboy, and yes I think its bloody wonderful, but just a start
of more Plusnet Culls to come I hope

What goes around, comes around, I bet there are many in the Sheffield sweat
shop awaiting the chop now ... let them sweat, wonder and wait!

These people treated customers like scum, have no sympathy for them at all.

Halleluiah!!!!