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Thanks in advance...

tHatDudeUK

"tHatDudeUK" <randomcharacter4spammers@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Also, is the 2500 any good. It's cheaper and I don't need the VPN the 2600
offers. Is there anything else I'd be missing?

Thanks in advance,

Kind regards,

tHatDudeUK

"tHatDudeUK" <randomcharacter4spammers@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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2600 without a few very advanced features that 99% of users don't need.

There is a feature comparison here:
http://www.seg.co.uk/products/a_vigor2600.html

I bought mine from www.zionmedia.co.uk

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In article <bmmq99$okstp$1@ID-158809.news.uni-berlin.de>, THatDudeUK
wrote:
plus VAT, filters extra.

Rod.

"tHatDudeUK" <randomcharacter4spammers@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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I'm considering the Vigor 2600 myself too, so your post beat me to it.

One question - I'm not getting enabled for a couple of months - if I get the
Vigor 2600, would I be able to use it as a normal network hub to replace a
small 4 port one for a LAN I currently have setup for three pcs? I'd like
to do this so that all is up and running for ADSL switch-in.

Also, does the 2600x allow routing and hub for a 56kbs dial-up back-up? I
know it allows ISDN (and I could use that in the meantime) but I wouldn't
have ISDN when ADSL arrives, as its pulled out. .

C.

Try this comparison chart for all Draytek routers...

James

http://www.draytek.co.uk/products/router_compare.shtml

sorry.

In article <bmo6uc$pcfse$1@ID-13600.news.uni-berlin.de>, Charles wrote:
Yes, that's exactly what I did and it works well. One oddity I found was that I
had to set the data rate in all my ethernet cards to "auto", rather than
explicitly to 100Mb/s, otherwise it ran at the slow speed, but apart from that
it's fine. It'll also give you access to the setup and diagnostic pages in the
Draytek (from any of your computers), so you can check these out and get them
set in readiness for the switch on.

Couldn't tell you what the 2600x can do, but isn't 56k dial-up access via a
different modem anyway? You won't be able to use it simultaneously on the same
service, but a standard dial-up moden will still work. I wouldn't waste money
on ISDN capability if you're not going to be able to use it.

Rod.

"Roderick Stewart" <spamtrap@abuse.plus.com> wrote

Thanks for the tip.

I have an LAN set up atm with 3 pcs sharing one isdn connection (2 pcs only
use it for mail) ) via a simple 4 port hub and if I buy the 2600x I can use
the isdn now. However, if I buy the 2600, I lose isdn on the other pcs when
I install it now in readiness for adsl. Dunno whether its worth the extra
£50 for the 2600x for isdn access for a couple of months.

C.

In article <bmoj8h$p7l0i$1@ID-13600.news.uni-berlin.de>, Charles wrote:
Presumably you already have an ISDN router with an ethernet connection? I
don't see why you couldn't simply plug the Draytek into that. For my money it
would definitely be an utter waste to pay extra for a capability you already
have, even if it wasn't just for a couple of months.

Rod.

"Roderick Stewart" <spamtrap@abuse.plus.com> wrote

Yes....

...didn't know I could!

Can you explain how I'd do this? Is the 2600 just added into one of the
ports (patch cable?) and then all pcs into the 2600?

Cheers

C.

In article <bmopbo$nnhrm$1@ID-13600.news.uni-berlin.de>, Charles wrote:
I don't see why not. The four ethernet ports on the Draytek box are
effectively another standard ethernet switched hub, and should be
interchangeable with the one you're already using. It would be the same as
if you left your existing hub as it is and plugged one of its ethernet ports
to one of the ethernet ports on the Draytek. You could keep the hub and use
it to extend your local network to more PCs if you like. I think that in
theory you could extend it with more hubs or switches up to a total of 253
machines (or 252 if you keep the ISDN box).

My only experience with ISDN is from a cybercafe I was once asked to set up,
around 1994 I think. The ISDN router was an Ascend Pipeline, at around £1500
the most expensive single item we bought apart from the cappuccino machine,
though I have seen one recently at a computer fair for £20. (an Ascend
router that is - cappuccino machines remain expensive!). The router plugged
into the ISDN terminal box, and also had an ethernet socket which we
connected to a couple of 8 port hubs, one of them linked through the other,
to feed a total of 11 machines (10 for the punters and one in the office).

One thing you will have to be aware of is that both the ISDN router and the
ADSL router will have local IP adresses in one of the ranges allocated for
this, most likely the 192.168.x.x range, and you will have to make sure you
don't use the same address for both. You might also run into trouble if both
routers are set to assign IP addresses automatically to your PCs - DHCP
enabled - but it is quite easy to switch DHCP off and set addresses manually
in a small network, making sure they're all different. The default for the
Draytek router is 192.168.1.1 (though you can change it), and presumably
your ISDN router will also have a setting for this, and all your PCs should
be assigned addresses in the same domain, i.e. 192.168.1.x.

I have no experience of using ISDN and ADSL together, though from what you
say I don't think it's what you're planning to do anyway. However, I
understand that it is possible to set up the Draytek 2600X to use both on a
"fallback" basis, i.e. it normally connects via ADSL, but if this fails it
dials the same service with the same settings via ISDN, so they are
alternatives and not used together.

I don't see why both routers couldn't coexist while you wait for ADSL, and
when you want to change over you simply change the gateway and DNS addresses
in your PC's connection software to the address for the Draytek router. Or
it may be possible to set up separate network connections on your PC, one
for each router, and have them available simultaneously, just as you can
have several dial-up connections simultaneously (with one designated as
default), though I haven't had an opportunity to try this. I think it would
be quite a rare requirement, though I'd be interested to know if you can.

Rod.

"Roderick Stewart" <spamtrap@abuse.plus.com> wrote

<good stuff snipped>

Thanks for your reply - I'll give it a go.

C.

I just got a new Gaggia Carezza for less than 150 GBP - great value and
great coffee.

BTW I have a Vigor 2600We - easy to set up, had to reset it twice in five
months - great router.

Cheers

Nick

In article <pvTjb.11640$kA.2932237@wards.force9.net>, Nick Shaw wrote:
That's good if it's anything like the industrial sized one we got, which
had to be plumbed in, and cost about 2k and was considered a bargain as
the new price was about 4k. I'm fairly sure it was a Gaggia as well.
Perhaps there are domestic-sized ones that are less expensive? And yes, I
do recall that the coffee was rather good. ;-)

Rod.