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Posted by Joy Entwistle on September 20th, 2004


Firstly my apologies if this is the wrong NG.

Now I have broadband I want my children to have access to the internet. For
obvious reasons I want to limit the sites they can view. (I am on BT
Broadband) Is there anything built into XP that will allow me to do this or
is there any kind of program I can download to limit their access for free?

Thanks and apologies again if this is the wrong group.

Joy


Posted by sarah on September 20th, 2004


Joy Entwistle wrote:
Instead of abdicating your responsibilities to some anonymous software
writer, you could try a little bit of parenting.

Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



"Joy Entwistle" <joyentwistle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Internet Explorer 6 has built in parental controls, but it can be a bit flaky at
times. Like for example it may block the term Sussex, just because it has sex in
the word.



Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



"sarah" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Thats a bit of a silly answer because good or bad parenting is not going to
block unwanted sites. I was teaching my neice the internet one day and she
wanted to know about dolphins, picked the I am feeling lucky page and it loaded
a page with hard porn.
Its not just a case of teaching someone not to view certain things, these things
can happen by accident and if software can help then it is a good idea.



Posted by huLLy on September 20th, 2004


"sarah" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Shouldn't you be out at some airbase eating lentils in your aliminium lined
tee pee?



Posted by DB on September 20th, 2004


Err, she had to give up when she died.



Posted by Gareth Edmondson on September 20th, 2004



"sarah" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Uh? What has that got to do with it? Why are you questioning his parenting?
What has it got to do with you?

Damn, maybe I shouldn't have setup that Linux proxy/filtering server in
school for the protection of the kids - I should have send letters to all
the parents telling them how to be responsible parents!

Gareth



Posted by :::Jerry:::: on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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<snip>
Because children are naturally trusting and thus don't see or hear the
dangers that some sites pose.

What utter bull, when did you last see hard core porn on broadcast TV, I
doubt even those channel X type satellite stations would broadcast most of
the stuff that people say is available on the internet.

Probably because she died about 4 years ago ! Do keep up at the back...

No one has ever said that, what is being discussed is preventing access.

I've heard they are clueless, you seem to have a very apt user name...



Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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Do you want your kids to see some bloke sticking his cock up an animal?
Nobody can argue that the internet has not got distasteful content. I would not
want to look at it so I certainly would not want children to look at it.
There are ways to filter out the unmentionable sites and people should use them
if they want their kids to have an enjoyable internet experience.



Posted by Joy Entwistle on September 20th, 2004



"sarah" <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in message
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Every NG has some sad, pedantic, sanctimonious, self righteous idiot as you.
Get with the times, kids use the internet now and all I asked was if I could
make it a little safer for them, bit like putting their seat belts on in the
car. DUH!

Thanks to all who responded helpfully

Joy



Posted by Bob Eager on September 20th, 2004


On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 19:40:37 UTC, "Joy Entwistle"
<joyentwistle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Well, that really encourages people to offer help, doesn't it? But
anyway...

But what you are proposing to do is fit them with a seatbelt that will
only work sometimes, lulling everyone into a false sense of security.
None of these filters work properly anyway. Yes, a little safer...but to
carry the seatbelt analogy to an extreme, you might be better off
without a seatbelt and driving accordingly (assuming all other road
users are perfect, here, but you get my drift).

In other words, either forget the software and supervise/control. Or,
use the software and be prepared to supervise/control anyway.

That's not to say that software measures are always a bad thing. I have
my mail system set up so that there is no way that email can be sent by
my children without my wife or I approving it first. That's foolproof -
I know; at least until they are better hackers than me, and I have 30
years start on them... At least until they are older and they invoke the
Human Rights Act on me...!

--
Bob Eager
begin a new life...dump Windows!

Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



"Joy Entwistle" <joyentwistle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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I haven't used these people, but check this out... http://kidrocket.org/
Its a kid safe web browser which is secure and does not allow bad content. Its
also free to use. Might be worth a look?



Posted by nospam on September 20th, 2004


":::Jerry::::" <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Too right, just the other night a web site jumped out of my monitor and
started attacking me. I had to scream for someone to come and help me press
the back button.



Parents trying censor the web to protect their children are more likely
trying to protect themselves from awkward questions.



Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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Better to teach the mother how to control the kids rather than have them
seperated into foster care.



Posted by Simon Finnigan on September 20th, 2004


nospam wrote:
I can see both sides of the arguement. Yes people should be able to see
what they want on the net, but equally why should a 5 year old kid be faced
with hard-core porn, animal sex or anything like that? It`s just not a good
idea, and if they wheren`t using the net they`d almost certainly never have
seen it. If someone gets off on it then that`s their problem, but parents
are well within their rights trying to block young kids from seeing it. And
it`s all well and good telling parents to supervise their kids - sometimes
you find a site by accident, I`m sure entering "young" into google is bound
to throw up more than a few sites the parents of a pre-schooler would be
concerned about. Software that bloks these mistakes can only be helpful.

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Earn money reading emails!
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Posted by Simon on September 20th, 2004


On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 18:21:32 +0100, Joy Entwistle wrote:

accessing material if they want to (unless you're quite competent in
network security). You may be able to reduce exposure to some material
accidently.

You could only let them browse the web using Firefox
(http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/) rather than Internet explorer.
It has built in pop-up stopping and will prevent installation of BHOs
(Browser helper objects) which can be installed into IE. BHOs often
redirect IE users to search pages and advertising of questionable content.

If you connect to internet via a router it may have some content filtering
options in it's firewall.

If you have a firewall or anti-virus software they may have some content
filtering options.
Otherwise take a look at Outpost Firewall. Version 1 is free and has good
features including the ability to block web pages based on the presence of
keywords.
The user guide is here:
http://www.agnitum.com/download/Outp...uide_(ENG).pdf
(page 63 explains the content filtering)
Download here: http://www.agnitum.com/download/outpost1.html
There's no password protection in the free version so your children could
easily disable it if they wanted to view something it blocked.

Simon.

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Posted by Beck on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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Yeah yeah yeah whatever, I bet you blame violence on videogames aswell?



Posted by Alec on September 20th, 2004



"Joy Entwistle" <joyentwistle@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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every PC in your house. You have complete control over how long (and at what
times) children can surf the net (for every day of the week, so you can
allow more at weekends), as well as blocking unsuitable sites. It's
password-controlled and pretty tamper-proof. It can be overcome if they
reformat the HD and re-install Windows, so best to hide Win installation
disk.
Parents have responsibility to ensure safe net access by children.

Alec



Posted by :::Jerry:::: on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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So you don't mind being kept awake at night when your kid(s) are having
nightmares etc. because of seeing horrific content that would not otherwise
be available ?

I suspect that those who are shouting the most about not allowing PARENTS to
censor what their OWN children can access are those who either don't have
(young) kids or are interested in peddling such material to kids in the
first place...

Why are you so anti local censorship, no one is suggesting that server
content is censored.



Posted by :::Jerry:::: on September 20th, 2004



<Wombat@batnet.net> wrote in message
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Unlike the OP.....




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