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Completely lost with adding a wireless router to my network!
Posted by Grumps on January 26th, 2007


I have 4 PCs wired to a modem/router, and this works great. This router does
DHCP.
I also have a laptop which I'd like to connect wirelessly to the rest of the
network.
I have borrowed a Linksys WRT54G wireless router (no modem).
From what I've read (in the simple Linksys instructions), I should be able
to connect a port on my existing router to the 'internet' port on the
Linksys, then other PCs can be wired to the Linksys's ports (and use the
wireless too).
I assume the Linksys should have its DHCP turned off, but other than that
I'm lost. Should I set up a routing table, should I change the Linksys's
default IP, etc? Is there any guide (idiot proof) that you know of that'll
ket me get this running?


Posted by Mark McIntyre on January 26th, 2007


On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:04:19 -0000, in uk.telecom.broadband , "Grumps"
<grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote:

no. don't do that.

Simplest is to connect the Linksys to one of the LAN ports on your
existing router, disable DHCP in the linksys, and that'll do the
trick.

If you don't have enough ports on your original router, just use one
of the other LAN ports on the linksys for one of hte PCs.

All you have to do then is battle with wireless config...
--
Mark McIntyre

Posted by Flyer on January 26th, 2007



"Grumps" <grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:51vg07F1m6qodU1@mid.individual.net...
try connecting the Linksys to your usual router LAN to LAN, turn DHCP on
the Linksys off, and hopefully it will act purely as a wireless access
point.

P.



Posted by Ivor Jones on January 27th, 2007




"Grumps" <grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Without a lot of faffing about, it's not easy to connect one router to
another.

What you should have done is get a standalone Wireless Access Point - this
is simply a box with an Ethernet socket and a couple of aerials. You then
plug this into your existing router and set it up to talk to your laptop.

Ivor



Posted by Grumps on January 27th, 2007


"Flyer" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:WLCY861660586@wilecoyote.org...
Thanks all.
Last night I played and managed to get internet browsing working by;
1) Connecting the Linksys internet port to my existing router LAN port.
2) Changing the Linksys default IP to 192.168.2.1 (when it is only connected
to one PC).
3) Leaving DHCP on.
Now all Linksys connected devices obtain their IP from the Linksys; but in
this situation I can't browse PCs on my other router.

So, this morning;
1) Leave the Linksys default IP at 192.168.2.1
2) Connect my existing router to a Linksys LAN port.
3) Turn DHCP off.
In this situation all Linksys connected devices get an IP from my existing
router and browsing (internet and to other network PCs) works fine.
However, now I can't connect to the Linksys web interface to set up the
wireless. Normally you'd enter the 192.168.2.1 address in IE, but with DHCP
off that doesn't want to work. (Fortunately I'd already enabled WEP so it is
secure.)
I guess with DHCP off it's just acting as a dumb switch and WAP.

Ho hum!



Posted by Phil Thompson on January 27th, 2007


On Fri, 26 Jan 2007 23:04:19 -0000, "Grumps"
<grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote:

plug it in as you describe and it'll very likely just work. You are
thinking about it too hard.

The only failure likely to occur is if your existing modem/router uses
the same IP range on its LAN side as the WRT54G does. You might need
to change the LAN settings of the WRT to 192.168.2.1 for example if
its WAN port gets a 192.168.1.x address from the modem/router.

Phil

Posted by Jono on January 27th, 2007


Grumps pretended :
Leave DHCP Server off on the Linksys.

Also give the Linksys a static IP address that is in the same range as
your existing router's IP address range. (Same subnet mask too) Then
you'll be able to browse to the web interface from any PC.



Posted by Roger Mills on January 27th, 2007


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Grumps <grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote:

What is the IP address of your original router? What addresses is it dishing
out to your PCs?

If you can't talk to the Linksys it's either because its IP address is in a
different range (subnet) from your other kit, or you have a confict (2
devices with the same IP address).

The Linksys needs to have an IP address which is unique - but in the same
subnet as everything else.
--
Cheers,
Roger
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Posted by Grumps on January 27th, 2007


"Phil Thompson" <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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Thinking too hard! Heh heh! I've never been told that before

I've got it going as needed now.
First router (with the modem) stays as it is. This dishes out IP address
from 192.168.1.3 onwards
Linksys has its default IP changed to 192.168.1.16, and DHCP off.
The modem/router connects via one of its LAN ports to a LAN port on the
Linksys (not the internet port as suggested by Linksys themselves).
Now I can access router1 at 192.168.1.1 and the Linksys at 192.168.1.16. It
all works fine.

Thanks to all for their patience and help.



Posted by Phil Thompson on January 27th, 2007


On Sat, 27 Jan 2007 21:10:13 -0000, "Grumps"
<grumpsnothere@hotmail.com> wrote:

their suggestion works fine here, FWIW.

Phil

Posted by Dennis Ferguson on January 27th, 2007


On 2007-01-27, Ivor Jones <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote:
I don't know. A wireless router with the WAN port unused is essentially
an access point. You need to configure both the router and the AP with an
IP address and wireless parameters; the sole difference between them is
that, while you're configuring the router, you'll need to turn DHCP off
on the way by.

I used to have access points, but when I decided I wanted to replace
them with APs with 802.11a support I could only find routers available.
The replacement was seamless none-the-less.

Dennis Ferguson