Hi
CPW are moving my BB connection to LLU next week, I currently get
512Kb -any idea what speed I should expect after the change?
TIA for any responses.
Al

Router stats are as follows -from a Netgear router.
ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 576 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 46 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 29 db 25 db

al wrote:
In theory you could get 2272 kb/s downstream (2 Meg) at a Noise Margin of 7dB
(double the data rate, and you chop 6dB off the Noise Margin). Upstream might
end up at 448 kb/s ish.

But if it involves those clowns at CPW, be prepared for your phone line to go
dead for a couple of weeks.


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Mark
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On Mar 16, 7:56 pm, Mark Carver <mark.car...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Thanks for the reply Mark
According to CPW letter BB will be off for 20 minutes, incoming calls
upto 4 hours and outgoing calls 20 minutes -time will tell.
Samknows.com says that no exchanges are enabled yet so maybe this is
the first and they will be keen to get it working (I want to beleive
this).
Thanks
AL

al wrote:

LLU has nothing to do with it (except of those ISPs offering ADSL2).

Graham

On Mar 16, 11:28 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:

it does in the case of TalkTalk who provide fixed speed 512k/1M/2M
outside their LLU area, so getting LLU is the only way Talk Talk users
actually get the promised "up to 8M" "free" broadband.

Phil

PhilT wrote:

That's a marketing, not a technical issue.

Graham

On Mar 17, 11:23 am, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
sales, actually, but it does have something to do with whether a
change to LLU affects the end users connection - it certainly will
with talk talk, and it may even work !

Phil

On Mar 17, 1:33 pm, "PhilT" <news...@gmail.com> wrote:
Pipex then BT could not offer me more than 512Kb, so I'm hoping LLU
will give me some increase (I've been signed up with CPW for 11 months
waiting for this).
Al

al wrote:

On precisely what basis ?

Graham

On Mar 17, 3:05 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi
Using the telephone number checker, the house across the road always
shows higher speeds available (but has no BB). Its definitely on the
same exchange as we are on the edge of Hamilton and only countryside
beyond when installed -approx 3.5km from exchange.
I had to get BT to fix a noisy line (in days of dial-up) -they changed
the pair used at the house -it cleared the noise but I think I must be
marked as having suspect line -ot something. So i'm hoping LLU and the
noise margins will allow a speed increase (it will cost me nothing to
be wrong).
Al

al wrote:

You assume too much competence at BT I fear !


LLU will run over the very same wires you have now.

It sounds to me like BT need a kick up the bottom since it's clear to me that
512k is very unlikely to be your 'limit'.

Problems like this are not unknown but you need to complain to BT not here.

Graham

On Mar 17, 6:57 pm, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Graham
Wasn't complaining on here. only asking for advice and responding to
questions. Being 3.5k from exchange I'm never going to get the fastest
but wanted and got an opinion on what to expect.
Thanks to all who responded.
Regards
Al

Eeyore wrote:
It is very possible that it is the limit as well Graham. I know of several
roads, in my working patch, which a far closer than 3.5km, where they are
unable to get anything faster, at least 2 of them are closer than 1km.

You have to remember that BTs network was installed & until 6 or so years
ago maintained with telephoney services in mind. DSL breaks that mold & so
can be affected adversely by conditions which don't affect anything else
(I've had more than a few where the BT Highway would work but they failed
the DSL tests). With this in mind it's suprising that DSL does work as well
as it does (need I remind you of your problem with an RF2 filter)

I'm afraid it is going to be a suck it & see situation, hopefully something
positive will come from it, but there are no garanties.

Brian

How do you know someone's using OE6 with Office 2007
Look for the French spellings, so appoligies if the smelling is a little off
(even with the Office 2003 proofing tools installed).

kraftee wrote:

Did you see his numbers though ?

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 576 kbps 288 kbps
Line Attenuation 46 db 15.5 db
Noise Margin 29 db 25 db

I've got 3.5Mbps with worse than that (courtesy of my RF2 filter). ~55dB
attenuation downstream.

Graham

Eeyore wrote:
Missed the numbers & being quite honest I don't take a lot of notice of them
as they aren't the figures which will be used & they most probably won't be
the same as if I went & checked the line.

You're forgetting that the 'figures' can vary wildly from one router to
another, even of the same make & model (& yes that much!). All they can do
is tell you (Joe Public) is whether a trend is happening, SNR going up or
down consistently & the same applies for the loop loss. Yes that can
change, as mine did when Marconi bodged the pole changeover a couple of
weeks ago knocking .25-.5Mbps of my max stable speed. Not a lot I grant you
but it led to me having to train the router back to a Max stable speed as my
ISP appears to be unable to do so as they just gives me full bore for the
line conditions at the time. So if I reboot tomorrow morning I would get
1-2Mbps more than if I rebooted at this time of night. When I get fully fit
I'll be up there checking to see what they've done, can't check the joint as
they've used a shrink down behind the capping which (I've been led to
believe by my coach) is not now standard practice, but then again the rest
of the job was bodged so why should that be done properly...

On Mar 17, 11:37 pm, "kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote:
Hi
LLU completed as CPW stated, its been up for 6 hours now and the stats
are as follows

ADSL Link Downstream Upstream
Connection Speed 5185 kbps 446 kbps
Line Attenuation 47 db 12.5 db
Noise Margin 10 db 22 db

This is much better than I had hoped for, 10/10 to CPW (for now).
Regards
AL