My nephew reckoned that most modern ADSL gateways sense the kind of
cable attached and switch themselves accordingly. Is he right?

I ask because I've received the Zen hardware already (activation due
Friday), but the cable they supplied may be a little short. I do,
however, have a longer crossover cable that currently connects between
two PCs.

MM

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 13:37:21 +0100, MM <kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> mused:

that don't, but not many.


If the cable is fixed and can't be changed you can buy another
crossover cable and a cat5 coupler that will turn it back into a
straight one if it does need to be a striaght cable.
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In message <u2bua3532jov0adrhvl90gmkup4kaoavre@4ax.com>, MM
<kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk> writes

But if it doesn't, a cat5e cable can be bought quickly & cheaply on
eBay. I've bought from cablestar* (Note, that the * is part of the
name.) who delivered within days or ordering and who are currently
selling a 2m cable for GBP2.24, a 3m cable for GBP2.44, a 5m cable for
GBP2.88 and a 10m cable for GBP4.10 - all including postage. I've also
bought a network cable from aquarius-computers but they only list a 30m
cable at the moment.

(No connection other than as a satisfied customer).

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I just bought a crimp tool, a big box of plugs and a 300m drum of cable..!


Ivor

"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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Looking at the massive box of "surplus" patchleads of various lengths that
I have collected from sites over the last couple of years, maybe I should
open an ebay sellers account.

How much does a standard IEC power cable go for?
I have loads of them.
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On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 20:13:38 +0100, "Graham" <me@privacy.com> mused:

Heh, if they were worth something I'd be a millionaire by now. I've
chucked more than I have sold, and I still have hundreds of the damn
things.
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"Lurch" <myrealname@sjwelectrical.co.uk> wrote in message
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This time next year Rodney...

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"Ivor Jones" <ivor@despammed.invalid> wrote in message
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Probably you should also have bought a tester to confirm you've wired the
plugs up correctly!

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Lurch wrote:
Can't you sell them to gulli^W audiophiles as "pre-run-in"?

Owain

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:33:31 +0100, "Graham" <graham@nospam.zen.co.uk>
mused:

I never do, I just know they work when I do them.
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Stuart.

kylix_is@yahoo.co.uk declared for all the world to hear...
Indeed he is.

Suck it and see. The worst that will happen is that it doesn't work, so
hack off one end of the longer cable and re-crimp it as a straight
through (assuming you have the tools).

http://www.ertyu.org/steven_nikkel/ethernetcables.html
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Jon

"Graham" <graham@nospam.zen.co.uk> wrote in message
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[snip]

No need. I've done so many now I can do them in my sleep..!

Ivor

On Tue, 31 Jul 2007 22:12:52 UTC, Lurch <myrealname@sjwelectrical.co.uk>
wrote:

Well, four of the wires, anyway.

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Graham wrote:

Not a lot and how much does one have to fork out to get every one PAT
tested anyway?

Always go to PC Worldlyness and get a Gold Plated IEC lead for about £30
to 'improve your broadband' (wonder if they have gold plated fuses?
Thats what always gets dirty anyway)
Goes with the special high speed/oxygen free copper/gold plated modem
leads for 56k dial-up modems.
And of course the £25 'special' 3meter RJ11 cables to the same spec for
your ADSL connection.

Snake oil comes to mind.

Mike

"Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote in message
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lolol
Well the blues and the browns work fine, lol.

On 31 Jul 2007 22:25:13 GMT, "Bob Eager" <rde42@spamcop.net> mused:

Well, sometimes I use 1 pair, sometimes I use 2, sometimes I use 3,
and sometimes I use 4. I use a lot of cat5 and RJ45 plugs for CCTV
rather than just for data cabling. I can make it up as I go along, no
particular standard to stick to.
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Regards,
Stuart.

Graham wrote:

In a similar vein, there must be a market for odd socks. I've got half a
drawer full.

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Alastair wrote:
Now you are going down the new mains colours as well.
Black can be live (US) Neutral (old UK) Live phase (new UK)
Buy some armoured cable and it comes as 3phase grey/black/brown (no
neutral)Regs say just sleeve a suitable wire with blue to be neutral -
what abouit if it is cut in the middle?

I haven't seen any blue/brown armoured (for gardens/sheds etc)

Mike

In message <1185920950.75703.0@iris.uk.clara.net>, Owain
<owain47125@stirlingcity.coo.uk> writes
does that mean they have been cryogenically treated as well? I could be
sitting on a small gold mine here...
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Clint Sharp

On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 10:50:03 +0100, m <mikewj@tiscali.co.uk> mused:

anything, there are many more things than just single or 3 phase
circuits.

combination fr the wholesalers to stock which would mean they'd sell
less of the brown\black\grey SWA so the prices would go up.

Same applies to using twin red, or brown as it is now, for switch
drops on loop in lighting circuits. Not that many people use it so
it's more expensive than the equivalent brown\blue twin and earth
although it has the same amount of copper and PVC in it.

Basically it's much cheaper to use a bit of sleeving.
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