"Mugwump" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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This is spam

This person has posted the same message in loads of groups.


Time to complain




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From: "anjennis \(ann\)" <anjy42@blueyonder.co.uk>
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Subject: curious?
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i've a few invites for people who live in london (or can get to regularly),
are trustworthy, open-minded and discreet.
if interested and have thursday evenings free (from 8/9pm) then email me for
further details.. anjy42@blueyonder.co.uk
private meetings are catered for- usually on mondays.

thanks.. x

ps- this has nothing to do with sex, pervs steer clear.

yeah hes also spammed uk-discounts and bargains, where more details about
his background are there, avoid this, especially since this has nothing to
do with broadband

"Tosh Man" <Toshsaysno@aol.com> wrote in message
news:bm6llu$ihitb$1@ID-208351.news.uni-berlin.de...

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 21:29:55 GMT, "Ami" <amarpritt@blueyonder.co.uk>
wrote:

I'll raise this to be looked at by our abuse team.

HTH




Alex



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Alex Brown
Internet Consultant
Application Services, Telewest Broadband

"anjennis \(ann\)" <anjy42@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
news:Nteib.407$e5.335@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk:

In article <Nteib.407$e5.335@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, "anjennis
\(ann\)" <anjy42@blueyonder.co.uk> says...
Basically it's pyramid marketing.

Remember all the "Trouble" they had in Albania a few years back? It was
down to crap like this.

If you're one of the first few in, you're fine, but if you're lower down
on the food chain, you're screwed basically.

http://www.dti.gov.uk/ccp/topics1/facts/pyramid.htm

Trading schemes can be a legitimate opportunity for people to operate a
business from home and are not illegal in the UK.

• Trading schemes become illegitimate and illegal if, while purporting to
offer business opportunities, the sole purpose of the scheme is to make
money by recruiting other participants, rather than trading in goods or
services. This form of bogus scheme is sometimes referred to as "pyramid
selling".

So, you're not selling anything, and you get money by recruiting other
people. It's pyramid selling, and it's illegal.

If blueyonder wasn't going titsup, you'd probably lose your connection
under 25.c of your "Terms and Conditions" for Blueyonder.

Pete.

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"anjennis (ann)" <anjy42@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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<snipped details of impossible get rich quick scheme>

A child at elementary school would spot the obvious financial impossibility
of this one!

Max

a brief description, not what i'd have sent out- but an explanation
nevertheless......


The invitation was to a meeting for “circle of success”. Circle of success
is a gift rendering system which sees all its members become financially
stable.

There are a multitude of systems like this, which have been running for
years with great success, there are also a number of unsuccessful schemes
which see people lose their money, I’m here to tell you that this one’s
genuine- not the least because I’m a member, but because it boasts added
conditions which secure your success and safety.



For those that don’t know, circle of success has (in this instance, I’d like
to clarify that all systems run by their own rules and
regulations/conditions) three main levels, following is a brief explanation;



1) You put in £500 and get two other people to join, each giving £500.
Within a week (depending on when you bring in your two people, a general
rule of thumb is to be quick if you want quick payment. No-one ever has to
wait more than 3 weeks to receive, starting from the point your second
person has been acquired) you receive £4k (£4’000).

2) On payment of your £4’000, you then re-enter the circle putting in
£500 and you bring in 2 people also putting in the same. (Note- in actual
fact you get only £3’500 due to the £500 re-entering fee). Again within a
week you get £4k.

3) Third time round you do the same as stage two, putting in £500
from your £4k and bring in two, this time you receive £4k but you move on to
the next stage. At this point from your £10’500 received in total, you put
aside £3k for the next stage.



Explanation - The Next Stage.

Because you and your immediate circle would have built enough revenue, your
able to make a progression, this progression can only be attained by
completing the first stage- people are not allowed to skip stages as these
are also trial periods. If you or your group doesn’t co-operate or hinders
the safety of any members you’re immediately excluded from further progress,
paid back your £500 and you and your circle are banned for life, there will
be no exceptions. Whether you or your members (members = the people you
invited and their invitees) committed the questionable act, no evaluations
will be made, you will all leave without possibility of ever re-joining.



Now On To the Next Level.

4) You put in £3’000 and bring in 2 others that do the same, within a
week you get £24’000.

5) You then take £3k from your £24k to enter the next stage- bringing
in two other people as in stage 4… etc... You are paid £24k within a week.

6) Again this stage mirrors the last, with the exception that it’s
finally time to enter the last chain/stage or sequence of events. You’d now
have acquired from the last three stages = £66k for stages 4/5 and 6.



The Final Stage.

7) You put in £10’000 (from the £66k) and bring in two others that do
the same, within a week you receive £80’000.

8) You take £10k from your £80k to re-enter with your two people, and
are paid within a week your next £80k.

9) You finally take £10k from your £80k to enter for the last time,
there is no next stage. When you receive your £80k you can either retire or
rejoin at the first level, putting in £500 and bringing in two people who
put in the same to get paid £4k.



This is purely a guideline, most people have trouble finding £500 to start
with, due to lack of finances, in such instances as an inviter and member I’
m willing to provide the initial £500 to get them started but take £2k from
their first receivership (“half” - I put in their money but they find two
people), the next time they re-enter they keep their £4k and can then make
their progressions unaided.

At the mere whisper of circle or putting in money etc people are naturally
dubious and elect to rubbish the whole system. Start talking about how it
works and I guarantee no-one will believe you, invite them unknowingly to a
meeting and I guarantee they’ll join (or will want to- even if they can’t
afford the initial £500).



I’d like to point out that there are fees which you are required to pay, you
must pay this from your receivership money (for the £4k stage it’s £200 per
receivership- which isn’t steep) because the person that has organised and
runs this system runs it from his business premises which insures full close
circuit security (continual recording and observing of events, with one
button the police are notified and respond- everything in his premises is
secured against theft) which protects you and your money.



Your best bet is to tell a group of friends you’re going out to dinner and
then take them, they may grumble at first, but at the end they’ll be
smiling.



I elected to use the “not knowing, curiosity” aspect on newsgroups, not
spamming- merely inviting people to learn more and then briefly skim over
the details to wet their appetite and then invite them to the meeting. If
even after attending people aren’t financially able, or are still resilient-
I’d introduce me giving them £500 to join so their experience could be risk
free.



On the contrary, the reception I got in short stank! People are so quick to
accuse that they lose sight of the fact that I’m not
spamming/selling/robbing/killing or aiming towards malicious intent. I don’t
see my giving people the means to join and then taking half of their first
receivership gift as criminal, infact it’s done out of good-will and not to
take advantage of them. I see it more as a means to an end, in the end
everyone will benefit.



No doubt if a few of the people there could see me they’d want to stone me
to death, feeling like a prophet out to help and not hinder I was left
dumbfounded and feeling immense disbelief and shock. Which of my actions
warranted such a comeback? I’m still trying to figure that one out.



By no means was I going to say so much, but after the flaming and virus
attempts made on my computer I’ve decided to close that avenue, I’ll still
be inviting people to the meetings and putting up £500 for those less
fortunate, but after my experience of hatred towards generosity I’m
declining from further online invites, for my safety and the safety of my
circle.




"Alex Brown" <alex_brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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Alex Brown <alex_brown@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote on Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:27:15 GMT:
Given that they have proceeded to post a follow-up to your post,
explaining how wonderful their (mathematically and physically impossible)
pyramid scheme is, your abuse team appear to have failed to do anything
useful...

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