Just doing a bit of window shopping prior to 6th September. Looking at routers.
Does anyone have any experience with the DabsValue 802.11b router + 4 port
switch?
Its only £35.99 which is just a bit more than my budget but I cannot find
anything cheaper at the moment, unless one of you kind people can direct me to
an inexpensive router (not ebay).
Also what does the switch part mean?

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, "Beck" wrote:

a QuickLink (or whatever) for it would be handy so we see the right unit

Is that a general "not s/h" or specifically not Ebay ? Just curious...
You might find someone has gone for a wireless unit and wants little cash
for their unused older wired router...

Similar to a hub, but where a hub sends out any received packet of data
to all connected ports, a switch will learn what is connected via each
of its ports (so knows if 1 or 10 or 100 local IP addresses are down a
specific 'link' and routes traffic via the specific port... moving a
cable might mean you need to ping a few times (or generate some data
from the end where the cable has been moved) to make the switch learn
of a change in which port to use for specific IP address(es). HTH.
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PlusNet <http://tinyurl.com/24ymz> - I recommend them and save some cash.
Depends on account that is opened by new customer, but good value ISP IMO.

"Brian Morrison" <scrapspam@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
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Thanks for the explanation just getting used to the technical aspects here :-)

"poster" <us-mail@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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Sorry, this one here.. http://tinyurl.com/63ltt
I do not mind second hand at all, I don't mind ebay, what I should have said was
ebay okay as long as payment is not paypal only. I refuse to use paypal crap.
:-)

On Fri, 20 Aug 2004 11:18:44 +0000 (UTC), "Beck"
<my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote:

That has to be the most useful product description I have ever seen
;-)



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Shevek

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"Beck" <my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote in message
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If its a blue ugly thing (you can hide it behind your PC or somewhere), the
we bought one about 2 yrs ago and its been used daily since then no
problems, we have 3 PC's connected to it, and all 3 will speak to each other
and access the outside world no problem, it was plus and play to set up I
think, quite simply it just works.

Jon

On 20 Aug 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, "Jonathan Pearson" wrote:

<http://www.edimax.com.tw/html/english/products/BR-6104WB.htm>
(You perhaps didn't spot Beck mentioned 802.11)
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PlusNet <http://tinyurl.com/24ymz> - I recommend them and save some cash.
Depends on account that is opened by new customer, but good value ISP IMO.

"Beck" <my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Are you looking for a wireless router with a built-in ADSL modem?

If so, that one doesn't have one..

Regards
Sunil

"Sunil Sood" <news@soods.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Not sure what I am looking for to be honest Sunil. I have tonnes of experience
with ICS, but nothing with routers. I haven't a clue what I am doing.
Obviously I am not ready to buy yet as I want to get connected first and make
sure the line is okay before shelling out. Just testing the water really.
Ideally, wireless would be the way to go as I am fed up with cables. But its a
pricey option and one to consider for the future, but not now.

On 20 Aug 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, "Sunil Sood" wrote:

Explains the price :-) Still, quite a handy unit to play with !!

"poster" <us-mail@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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What about this one then? http://www.speedtouch.com/prod530.htm
Thats the model I can get for £20 if I sign up for BTYahpoo for games machine.
Do I need a seperate modem for that one?

"Beck" <my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote in message
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No - that Speedtouch router contains a built-in ADSL modem

However, it has no wireless capability - if you wanted that, you would have
to add a WAP seperately.

Regards
Sunil

"Beck" <my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote in message
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No you don't. It's an ADSL modem, firewall and router all rolled into one.

It's not wireless though.


Stephen

"Sunil Sood" <news@soods.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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It does not have to be wireless. I think wireless option would be too expensive
at the moment.

"Stephen Stewart" <a.nonymous@no.spam> wrote in message
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Don't need wireless, I shall be looking to get wireless probably after Christmas
when I have more money available. BT Shop does a good wireless package, but I
do not have £100 to spare at the moment.
I think I will go for this speedtouch one, it will do for the time being.

"Beck" <my_bulkmail@removebtopenworld.com> wrote in message
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Well certainly it's pretty good value. You'll not go far wrong for £20.


Stephen

On 21 Aug 2004 in uk.telecom.broadband, "Beck" wrote:

Apart from them supplying the router at some sort of discount price,
is there anything else they're supplying in the 'games machine' deal ?
I did try to check their site again but it might need me to go one or
two levels into the signup before I see what's being offered. Just a
thought but will you be paying a higher fee to contribute to the low
cost for the router (and perhaps paying more than some cheaper a/c
and buying the router separately ? or, another way, after the 12
months, can you swap to some other one of their accounts without
a new 12 month contract, so your monthly fees come down a bit ?)

Peter

"Peter M" <us-mail@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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There is nothing extra in the games deal, and the price is the same as the free
modem deal. Also, strangely, the price is the same as the no modem deal. All
packages on the home 500 are £26.99 or £27.99 if you do not pay by direct debit.
The PS2 and Xbox products are the same.

"poster" <us-mail@rocketmail.com> wrote in message
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Switches learn MAC addresses (layer 2 of the OSI model) not IP addresses and
there shouldn't be a problem with reconnecting a device. If the switch
doesn't know which port a MAC address belongs to it forwards the frame to
all ports until it finds out.

Cheers
Rob

On 22 Aug 2004, in uk.telecom.broadband, "Rob Walker" wrote:

Yes, I saw that in another post. If devices are not connected directly to
the switch, however, then surely the switch will have to learn which MAC
address is now responsible for getting data to a specific device, so does
it track by MAC or IP address in that case ?

For example, I have some 10/100 switches (upstairs [unit A], downstairs [b],
garage[C]) with [b] connected to [A] and [C], and [b] having PCs [1], [2],
[3], [4] connected. If I have some laptop, call it [L] connected to [C]
but later take it upstairs, and plug it into [A] then how would router [b]
act if any of [1] to [4] tried to exchange data with [L] ?

Initially [b] will have determined data must be sent to [C] but when [L]
is no longer available at [C], what happens ? Thanks.