In message <Q0CeqTS65kYDFwX0@btinternet.com>, Ian Cummings
<news.spam@glitton.org.uk> writes
I agree. For mail many are close but for news it still stands miles
ahead. I haven't got it on my laptop so when I go away and check in to
ngs with various other clients I end up getting annoyed. Strangely
ennough, the browser Opera is the next best news client I have found so
far.

It made certain parts of it look more up to date!

Or me. I've had years of happy service.
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Pete Devlin
[{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
"And the devil in a black dress watches over"

In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510282214450.26623@localhost.local domain>,
Stephen Chadfield <stephen@chadfield.com> writes

I disagree.

Having a multi-user OS isn't necessarily the same as having privacy
between multiple users. With XP Home, for example, anybody with an
administrator account can change the password on a limited user account
and gain access to that users data, which might include "private"
emails.

Having such items stored within a WAKE encrypted database will make
things considerably more difficult for the snooper.

Regarding broadband internet access - I use Turnpike with broadband, it
suits me fine. What am I missing ?

Yes - a shame. I tried that before and found things lacking that I like
in Turnpike, just like I found things I liked in Mulberry that are
lacking in Turnpike. IMAP has never been on my list of "must haves".
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Ian Cummings

Nightowl <owl@[127.0.0.1]> wrote:
whether I'm writing an E-Mail, writing a Usenet posting or writing a
text file or writing a real letter. Therein lies the advantage of
separate, specialised tools 'à la Unix' which nearly always give you
the choice of which editor you want to use to write your text.



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Chris Green

On Sat, 29 Oct 2005, Ian Cummings wrote:

Anyone with Administrator privileges can install a keylogger and record
the passwords used to access your Turnpike databases.

Clumsy and unnecessary "Connect" application, for example.

There is nothing to beat IMAP if you want to have access to your email
from a number of different locations and devices.

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Stephen Chadfield
http://www.chadfield.com/

In article <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510301202000.2458@localhost.locald omain>,
Stephen Chadfield <stephen@chadfield.com> writes
Untrue,, from my view point. Why is it clumsy?

Web mail, whether SMTP or POP3?

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Hugh Janus Constipation is the thief of time, but diaorrehia waits
for no man!!

In message <Pine.LNX.4.64.0510301202000.2458@localhost.locald omain>,
Stephen Chadfield <stephen@chadfield.com> writes
Yes, but that applies whether the underlying OS is multi-user or not.
With an (essentially) single-user OS - which many people are still
running - getting at that same data is even more easily got at if the
application stores email in plain text.

It's certainly unnecessary if one never wants to use the facilities that
it provides.
Clumsy ? Things could doubtless have been implemented differently, but
in normal (broadband) use I never see it. It comes in handy when I
occasionally need to switch to a dialup connection and use different
mail servers etc.

In fact, it's far _less_ visible to me when using broadband than when
using dialup, and it's use on a multi-user OS is no different from on a
single user OS, which is why I find your comment about it being "a poor
fit when multi-user OSes and broadband internet access became the norm"
a bit baffling.

I'm well aware of what IMAP offers. But I, like a many many others I
suspect, have absolutely no need for it. If I did I'd have sought out an
IMAP capable mail client and email provider long ago.

This is getting way off-topic for this group...
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Ian Cummings