Afternoon all,

Further to yesterday's post (Tiscali MAC) I contacted Tiscali, received a
MAC within 30 minutes and have now signed up with PlusNet. If any other
Tiscalies read this you now know that escape is possible.

Marc

"Marc B" <marc.brooks[spam]@lineone.net> wrote in message
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I am with plusnet and the words fire and fryingpan spring to mind.
good luck
Roy

"keymaster" <news@satellite*PANTS*.plus.com> wrote in message
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I'm with PlusNet also, and I would say that in general things are fine.
Couldn't access a particular website, but otherwise, everything is fine
especially upload/download speeds - very fast!

AMO

"keymaster" <news@satellite*PANTS*.plus.com> wrote in message
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Well I must say that my 11 referrals and myself have found no problems with
plusnet, so I`m
not sure as to why you should have a problem? Hope I`m not tempting fate!
Fred

keymaster wrote:
Beat me to it.....

On Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:41:14 -0000, Marc B wrote:

Congratulations :-)

Your next step will be trying to get Tiscali to stop billing you. Took me
nearly a year after I left them :-(
--
Regards,

Hugh Jampton

"Kraftee" <kraftee@kraftee.plus.nospamming please we're bristish.com> wrote
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Glad your all happy, hope you continue to be, but if you look on the
discussion forums on the portal, plusnetters or the forums on adslguide you
will find many previously happy customers on there who are now sick of
"traffic shaping, throttling, terms and condition changes and peak time
arrangements all brought in since 2004. All I can say is if you like it now
you would have loved it 18 months ago.
best wishes.
Roy

Well my dozen referrals are all happy as am I. The trouble is that the
dissatisfied few have very large mouths and a very tenuous grasp of
commercial reality. The percentage of malcontents being considerably less
than 1% of the user base.

Peter Crosland

I`ve been with plusnet for nearly 3 years, yes I do read the various forums
where plusnet are slated, this concerns me as I keep wondering as to what`s
round the corner. All I can say is I browse the web download what I want,
admittedly not p2p, and it just works. Whenever I speak to my referrals I
ask how their broadbands going, they say fine. So why a do we have such
different experiences
with plusnet?
Fred

Because 99.5% of the users are happy.

Peter Crosland

The Simpsons wrote:
I think you'll find that it's a lot to do with how Plusnet have released
the changes, continually going on about a certain percentage of users
spoiling it for the rest of us, & it's always the same percentage. Back
dating some of the changes so users have run foul of some of their new
rules before they have even been anounced. We or course won't remember
a couple of the much publizised changes which have come to nothing.

If (& it's a very big IF ) they had open & above board with what was
going to happen then I feel that PN would not be getting the bad press
they are now, but as it is they have gone blindly from one misconceived
idea to another caring little if anything about the service which their
customers are actually recieving...

I've signed up for Plusnet's BroadbandPAYG as my use of the internet is
limited to a little light www surfing, newsgroups, ocassional email and
accessing work from home. I don't intend to stream video, download the
entire iTunes catalogue or use P2P file sharing! As long as I get decent
download speed when I need it I'll be happy.

Marc

"Marc B" <marc.brooks[spam]@lineone.net> wrote in message
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I thought Tiscali and Plusnet both had the same daft rules of Fair Use. ie
you cant do certain things at certain times?
Have you not just jumped one troubled ship for another one?
Is plusnet now unlimited, ie download what you like, when you like without
having to be getting a petty email if your break the rules?

On Fri, 30 Dec 2005, Marc B wrote:

In my experience with an analogous Plusnet tariff and usage profile,
you'll generally do just fine. For Usenet, I had to switch from their
main usenet server to their text-only server (text.usenet.plus.net) to
get any meaningful response, although this might have changed since -
they've evidently been doing quite a bit of tweaking. Also, the other
night I found "Google Earth" responding very sluggishly, although I
can't be sure whether this was Plusnet throttling the streaming data,
or Google itself being overloaded.

On the whole, I'm reasonably satisfied with my choice of Plusnet. I'm
glad that they're pissing-off the hardcore of users who've been trying
to get far more than their fair share, though I admit they might have
done it in ways that brought them better PR.

Caveat: I haven't needed any technical support. Everything has "just
worked" for me, so I've no idea how good or bad they are when the ADSL
goes pear-shaped.

(As you can see, for the most part I'm using plusnet just as a network
access point to get access to my accustomed facilities on the campus -
via ssh, if you want to know. But the campus doesn't take all
newsgroups, so I do also use the plusnet usenet service for some
groups.)

I'm only going to be using 0.5 - 0.8 Gb/month as I'm not a random downloader
/ video streamer / iTune purchaser / P2P file swapper.

All I want is a bit of light surfing, 3 particular newsgroups, access to my
workplace out of hours, a few (yes not many) emails per day and occasional
driver downloads.

Marc

"John Stevens" <privatemail821@private.net> wrote in message
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"Marc B" <marc.brooks[spam]@lineone.net> wrote in message
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In which case, I don't see why you moved, unless you got bored with Tiscali.
They sound fine for what you do.

I moved because Tiscali speeds had reduced so much over the past 18 months
that the upload speed was considerably faster than downloads. Downloads have
gone below 100kbps and on one occasion were below dial-up speeds; they
average about 225kbps for a 1Meg service. Even us light users like to get
webpages and email this year not next!

Marc

"John Stevens" <privatemail821@private.net> wrote in message
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"John Stevens" <privatemail821@private.net> wrote in message
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My brother-in-law was with Tiscali and moved to Plusnet so I asked him for
his
thoughts on how they compared. Here`s his reply.

Fred

Welllll!!!! Its like this. Tiscali are OK until somwthing happens, like you
contact them. They mess-up the monthly payments, change payment days; always
have hidden extra charges and write saying one thing then have no record of
such correspondance and then say something else. They never reply to your
emails - not properly anyway - just standard "we will be back" lies. You
seem to have to cancel your order with them at least twice/many times before
they get the message. They still owe me money (part of a months paymeny)
never see that I expect, as they could not accurately calculate my final
bill!!!!**&^%$:@{}+_*

The average broadband speed is NEVER achieved to within 90% - not even near!
Slow as a slow thing when the mood takes them. (This morning PlusNet was
about 95% of max, which we all know they never achieve the full advertised
figure, well not round here cus the exchange keeps sinking into a peat bog).
ALso the problem of Tiscali using a different system to the others means you
can't just do a swap to another outfit.

PlusNet cancel orders just like that when you ask them. They help you with
tech problems - speedily, and to-date have not messed up my billing.

So far I would say PlusNet feel better to deal with and offer a much better
service.

what is MAC? sorry.
"Marc B" <marc.brooks[spam]@lineone.net> wrote in message
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"JR" <janice.drew@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Quote from Plusnet FAQ

What is a MAC Key?
A MAC Key is a unique code which allows you to easily move from one
broadband provider to another. A provider agrees to your move when they give
you a MAC key.

MAC Keys always begin with BBIP or FTIP, followed by 6 or 8 digits, a slash
and then 5 more letters or numbers. e.g. "BBIP87654321/AB12C".

MAC Keys expire after 30 days.