My question is in the subject line, I seems I need my voice modem to fax
and to act once again as my answer machine. I would really rather
dispense with it as I can always get an ordinary dedicated answer
machine, except it seems I am also unable to use my WinFax Pro to fax
without a voice modem.
Surely there must be a way around this yes, no?
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In article <VqFxlNDnBHBAFwiM@fitzwilliamonline.com>,
Derrick Fawsitt <46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:
No.

An ADSL modem does not have the capability to generate fax signals, nor
to dial numbers. You still need the old modem. There is no reason why
you can't also have a separate answering machine if you want. You just
set the modem not to answer the line when it rings.

Cheers,
Tony
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Play: tony@mountifield.org - http://tony.mountifield.org

Your options are basically to continue to run your regular modem on the
voice side of the ADSL line (as I do with Talkworks Pro) OR change your ISP
to one that supports Fax2Email capability (as per here:
http://www.plus.net/info2/compare/mo...html#Fax2email )

Paul
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In message <eW_Mb.14516$tQ6.503914@wards.force9.net>, Paul Murphy
<p_murphynothanksto@spamhotmail.com> writes
has the facility to provide me with a fax number to take in faxes as
email, its "sending" them that is the problem.
I see on the net that there is email to fax for free available but so
far I have not been able to sort out the "wheat from the chaff".


--
Derrick Fawsitt

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Paul Murphy <p_murphynothanksto@spamhotmail.com> wrote:

Fax2email would deal with incoming faxes only AIUI. He'd still have to use
the analog fax-modem on the voice line for outgoing faxes.
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Tim
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In message <VqFxlNDnBHBAFwiM@fitzwilliamonline.com>, Derrick Fawsitt
<46@fitzwilliamonline.com> writes:

<http://fax.co.uk/index.htm?ge2f>

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 23:34:08 +0000, Derrick Fawsitt
<46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:

it means "use your analog modem like you used to do to fax"

then use your faxmodem!

there's a few free ones, but they're hardly worth the bother - if you
have a faxmodem, just use it.

In message <bu1vd9$co48m$1@ID-217758.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tiscali Tim
<me@privacy.net> writes
would not for worlds so back to dialup. However, I have lost two things,
my voice modem acted as an answer machine and also enabled me to use
WinFax Pro to send faxes. I have been having trouble getting my Robotics
3Com voice modem to work alongside my new one.
For one thing, I have now to plug in the ADSL modem to the telephone
socket together with the phone, all via the filter provided by PlusNet.
If that were all then it would only be a problem for me to get the 3Com
software working, but I also have to connect the voice modem's telephone
line into the selfsame socket and I don't have a place to do it. Do I
stick yet another filter in to the socket to facilitate the old modem,
even when I did that I got problems with the ADSL going down.
I am afraid I am going to throw in the towel and hand over to an expert
to configure the whole thing and in the meantime be faxless and answer
machine less, what a state of things.
Sorry for boring everyone with that rigmarole but its just to indicate
what it can be like when you are not an expert and are trying to cope
without proper help from the support chaps in your ISP's tech help.
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Derrick Fawsitt

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Derrick Fawsitt <46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:


I don't quite understand the problem!

Before ADSL, you had an ordinary phone socket into which your analog fax
modem plugged, right? You also had a phone plugged in - so you must have had
a 2-way adaptor or another socket somewhere, right? Or maybe the phone
plugged into the modem? Your modem served as your means of connecting to the
internet, and also as an answering machine and fax device, right?

Now you've got ADSL, you've got an ADSL filter/splitter plugged into the
phone socket, right? Your ADSL modem is connected to the ADSL output on this
filter, and is now your means of connecting to the internet, right? You can
plug your old fax/modem into the (filtered) phone output on your ADSL
filter. If you use a 2-way adaptor in this socket (you may need a short
extension lead first if it won't plug in directly) you can also plug a phone
in. Or if your phone was previously plugged into the modem, do that.

You can continue to use the anwerphone and fax software with your fax/modem
exactly as before. The only thing which has changed is that your internet
connection now needs to point to your ADSL modem rather than to the dial-up
connection with your old modem.

Surely, it's as simple as that - or am I missing something?
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In message <bu3b4o$d1imm$1@ID-217758.news.uni-berlin.de>, Tiscali Tim
<me@privacy.net> writes
"holes", one square one which takes the tel. connection from the
Binatone ADSL modem and an elongated one that takes my phone.
telephone lines plugged in, one from the ADSL modem, one from the phone
and one from the voice modem. As I got noise on the telephone line and
was having line dropping problems I substituted the two way adapter for
the second filter I got from PlusNet thinking that was a better bet. I
then had more drop out problems "together" with trouble with the 3Com
software which would not reinstall the analog modem. Grrrrrr! I was seen
at twelve o'clock midnight walking around my garden contemplating the
fishpool and wondering was it deep enough to take the plunge!!!
modem. This is an interesting option which would mean I did not have to
mess around with extra adapters for the socket??
together at the beginning, but got line drops from the ADSL, thought it
was the second modem interferring with it and pulled it out and
uninstalled the software, now of course it won't reinstall, what a mess.
am wondering if I should bother anyone any more.
To sum up, I will work away on it for a while and hopefully all will
come right in the end.

Thanks Tim, my word I admire your patience with me and thanks to all the
others as well. I will forgo the dip in the pond for now
, but if you don't see me posting here again...................
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Derrick Fawsitt

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 12:49:28 +0000, Derrick Fawsitt
<46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:

You need a 2 way adaptor into the *filtered* output of the ADSL
microfilter, I'm not clear if you did this.

The phone and voice modem need to be protected by filters and use the
filtered (phone) output. The aDSL modem needs to be not filtered and
can either go straight into the BT line or into the (unfiltered) ADSL
output of a microfilter.

All filters are not born equal, if you have problems try a different
one, a different type or two in series.

Phil

For incoming Faxes and Voicemail I use a free service from
http://www.yac.com . Emails and voicemails arrive in my email. Similar
service, also free, from http://my.dmclub.net/

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Derrick Fawsitt <46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:

Some modems *do* have a socket for a phone - but it will be an RJ11 socket
(like the "square" ADSL socket on your microfilter) rather than a BT-type
"elongated" phone socket - so you'll need an adapter.

Another alternative is to wire in another extension socket alongside the
existing one, and to plug a microfilter into each of the 2 sockets. Then
connect your ADSL modem and analog phone to one microfilter and connect the
old modem to the phone outlet from the other one (leaving the ADSL outlet
unused). If you have another socket in the house (in another room maybe) you
could simulate this, using a long extension lead, to see whether it would
work.

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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 22:25:43 +0000, Derrick Fawsitt
<46@fitzwilliamonline.com> wrote:

Might be a bit limited in its coverage but worth a try.

http://www.tpc.int/
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In message <njbb00ttuce8smo62j21buoglmcb6e4qab@4ax.com>, powerposter
<powerpost@powerpost.org> writes
rude reply as I am travelling just now. I will respond when I get back.
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In message <pOK+cWCYrTBAFwnV@fitzwilliamonline.com>, Derrick Fawsitt
<46@fitzwilliamonline.com> writes:

You have a duff filter.

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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 02:44:03 +0000, Jim Crowther
<Don't_bother@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> wrote:

Or you don't have a filter/s or it's connected the wrong
way round.

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