When measuring broadband usage do ISPs normally keep track of the volume of
data uploaded as well as that downloaded?

With the introduction of P2P for video file sharing by the likes of the BBC
iPlayer and 4oD, it would be not to difficult to get into the situation
where the volume of data uploaded actually exceeds that downloaded!

In particular do Pipex measure the volume of data uploaded?


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Michael Chare wrote:

Varies with ISP AIUI.


Why not ask them ?

Graham

"Michael Chare" <MunderscoreNEWS@chareDOTorg.uk> wrote in message
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The whole asymmetrical issue is finally coming back to bite.
It was always going to be a problem eventually.
Faster upload speeds are possible on ADSL.
I am not sure what the limit is but some of the pro services have maybe
double the upload speed of a domestic line.



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Gordon Hudson wrote:

Has nothing to do with a 'domestic line'.

You can get 832 kbps up with a 'home' package if you fancy paying the premium
e.g. .....
http://www.idnet.net/solutions/homesupermax.jsp

ADSL2+ also offers a similar upload speed as standard AIUI.

Graham

Gordon Hudson wrote:


And it's getting to be more of a problem when things like iPlayer (why
does the BBC have to advertise Apple?) and possibly Skype are actually
P to P systems that use stored versions on others PCs to save on the
companies servers.
And they don't even tell you!
Rather like BitTorrents that throttle your downloading if you don't
share uploading (and your bandwidth)
People on restricted accounts are soon going to spot this and be very
unhappy. Possibly destroying the whole iPlayer thingy

Mike

Mike J <mikewj@tiscali.co.uk>:

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Curious, really, since iPlayer can't currently be used on Macs.

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Michael Chare wrote:
I expect that any ISPs which measures downloads will also measured
uploads. Whether they do anything with that data will vary. Some will
ignore it, some will use it for help traffic forecasts, some count it
towards your usage (i.e. usage=up+down), some will work out your usage
based on up or down, whichever is the greater.

On 22-Oct-2007, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote:

Zen specifically claim that upload is not counted. However
if you are thinking of P2P then downloads are also seeding,
and the protocol, even if you are only uploading or seeding
has a download component that is counted as download.
I left a completed download seeding and found it was
taking quite a bit from my download quota.
So some MAY appear to be be better off with a so called
unrestricted ISP, only to find that traffic shaping slows
everything to a crawl at peak times, or their bandwidth
is restricted under a fair use clause. Then also find that
it's a 12 month contract.
You gets what you pay for, sometimes, but in general
ISP's offering 1 month contracts have to provide a good
service and bandwidth, or users migrate out.

Ben Shimmin wrote:
As I understand it however, the problem is that the DRM is a Microsoft
thingy so will have to be changed for MACs (and Linux)
Perhaps if their feed then becomes unDRMmed (is that the right
spelling?) it will drive the sale of MACs and use of Linux

Mike

ato_zee@hotmail.com wrote:
They may not use or do anything specific with the data, but I'm sure
that they do record it. It would effectively be free information for
them if they record your download, so it would be pointless to discard it.

On 23-Oct-2007, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote:

If I'm P2P'ing I set up a VPN connection.
So they may record it, but it would be a lot
of hassle to determine what was being
uploaded/downloaded.
It is alleged that VPN helps to avoid traffic shaping
at peak times, most ISP's are slow at peak times,
so traffic shaping may be irrelevant.

ato_zee@hotmail.com wrote:
I fail to see what your reply has to do with what I said.

On 23-Oct-2007, Paul Cupis <paul@cupis.co.uk> wrote:

Some are concerned with privacy issues, how much info
your ISP can gather, and who has access to that information.
Googles retention of search history is currently a topic on this issue.

ato_zee@hotmail.com wrote:
What has that to do with what I wrote?