All,

New to this group. But was hoping someone could help.

We are shortly to move from an NTL area to central Birmingham (which I
believe has no cable provider).

So it looks like we will be going over to a broadband provider via a BT line
(which is a novelty to us). Also a bit of a pain as we use Vonage for VOIP -
so a phone line is a bit of a waste.. but anyway...

My real question comes down to hardware. I have my infrastructure here all
using Ethernet. I don't really want to go to a USB cable modem with an
always on PC. This is not something I have ever thought of before as NTL
(despite other sins) have always provided an Ethernet/USB dual modem for
free.

Do any of the Broadband providers do the same? All the ones I can find are
USB modem only - with a typical 70 pound hardware cost to get the Ethernet
modem?

TIA,
Robin

Robin wrote:
Telewest covers Birmingham, which part exactly do you mean by central?

Its got a B1 postcode.
One of the flats right in the centre, by the library.

Telewest website reckons they don't serve the postcode when I checked
yesterday...

Thanks though,
Robin


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"Robin" <robincarder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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With BT based broadband you will be using ADSL so will need a ADSL modem and
not a cable modem

There are one or two ISP's whose "free USB modems" include a ethernet
socket - including BT's own ISP's (excluding the cheapest BT Broadband Basic
tariff)

However, I would choose your ISP on the features you want and not worry
about the modem they may/may not bundle with it - as you can buy ethernet
ADSL modems for under £20 from somewhere like http://www.ebuyer.com/ (try
Quickfind code: 48449 for instance)

Regards
Sunil

Useful stuff - thanks.

Sorry, have *always* been on NTL, so I use the term "Cable Modem" out of
habit when I don't mean it...

Robin

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Sunil Sood proclaimed...

hehe, man that's a cheap router

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Hi Robin,

If you don't find an ISP that helps re ethernet modem then you
could look here for starters ..............

http://www.adslguide.org/hardware/re...nk-dsl300t.asp

Good Luck

Billy

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Blair

Thus spaketh Stri:

And very good too!


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"Robin" <robincarder@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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they supplied me with a 2 port adsl modem router, one ethernet port and one
USB port, and the modem is recognised as a 'GlobespanVirata UPnP IGD in
Viking' in my network, all I need is broadband to see if it works!

Des

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:26:46 GMT, "Des"
<descanawayspamfree@ntlworld.com> wrote:

sounds like a BT Voyger 205

Phil
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On Sun, 07 Aug 2005 19:08:17 GMT, "Robin" <robincarder@hotmail.com>
wrote:

it it still theirs though, which is easy in a cable monopoly but more
difficult to manage in a competitive ADSL world.

If you want to buy an "ethernet modem" to connect to your existing
stuff then tread carefully and find one that is known to be compatible
with your hardware.

If you're going to buy an ADSL ethernet modem/router then get your
head round the fact that the new box will have the external IP address
and not any of your current stuff. This will end up double-NATted.

A combo ADSL modem-router could replace what you have now, which may
be simpler.

Phil
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Can you explain what this means please?
Thanks
James

On 8 Aug 2005 12:14, "James Weston" wrote:

Did you ever learn about logic using AND, OR, NAND, NOR, XOR
gates where there would be multiple inputs and one output ?

With a router, there are options for handling multiple inputs
(systems on your LAN) and they are seen as a single source on
the WAN side of the router, when NAT is enabled. Now consider
two routers, one after another, and you see that traffic from
a PC will go through two routers, and (hopefully!) responses
come back through both routers, but for port forwarding and
some other functions, it is much more messy (check threads in
uk.comp.home-networking to see the confusion it can cause if
someone hasn't got their head around a router being a little
like a funnel (several inputs, one common output) and getting
DNS to work is just a mess....


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James Weston wrote:
It means your packets will be processed like this

Sending Address0ort -NAT-> Address1ort -NAT-> Address2ort
Recieveing Address2ort -NAT-> Address1ort -NAT-> Address0ort

This is theoretically okay but there are issues when dealing with stream
s of information or stateful connections as the NAT translation can time
out at either stages and then the routers can get really confused.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22...G=Search&hl=en

J

Robin wrote:
have you tried calling them, the post code checker isn't 100% reliable.

Try sales on 0845 142 0220

On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:34:45 +0100, poster <us-mail@rocketmail.com>
wrote:

port forwarding becomes mind-boggling

Phil
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