From another group:-

<http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08/13/isp_bbc_iplayer_neutrality/>

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6944176.stm>

Tiscali admitting to capacity problems now everyone is downloading
quality stuff rather than utube cr*p

Mike

m wrote:

Hardly surprising it's Tiscali moaning is it ?

The 'one price for everyone which allows you to download as much as you like'
model is very broken. Why they persist with it is beyond me.

Graham

On 13 Aug, 21:20, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Should get the ASA on the case..I think this is gonna roll on for some
time now..

Jim.

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46C0BD2A.176DF92A@hotmail.com...
Because it encourages more people to sign up with them Also, before this
recent innovation, only a tiny minority of subscribers took advantage of
unlimited downloads so the effect on the whole network was negligible.

(kim)

kim wrote:

Possibly.


I don't agree. P2P has been around for ages (and youtube, google video, online
gaming etc)

Graham

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46C0BD2A.176DF92A@hotmail.com...
purposes only. False advertising of unlimited by Tiscali is OK by OFCOM.
If you complain to them or ASA they send you a standard letter saying
unlimited doesn't mean no limit. Very odd for a contract under English Law
to use a dictionary that is not English.

Weird.. in my dictionary here at home the definition of 'unlimited'
says 'without limits - ie no limit'


Jim.

On Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:16:09 -0700, jdr.smith@virgin.net mused:


I think you missed the point of the post you sort of attempted to
maybe reply to.
--
Regards,
Stuart.

Ron wrote:

Actually Virgin still says you can download 'as much as you like'.

Graham

Lurch wrote:

jdr hasn't learnt about trimming properly yet.

Graham

kim wrote:
..
See also this about P2P downloading of iPlayer:-

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/08...layer_worries/

Mike

On 14 Aug, 12:01, Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Ain't learn't how to change my display name from my e-mail address
either...ho hum... ;-)

Signed up yonks ago and haven't revisited this..perhaps I should ?

Jim.

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46C1427A.726F86B7@hotmail.com...
Yes but only a small percentage of users took advantage of P2P to download
large, high quality files.

(kim)

kim wrote:

You know this for a *fact* ??

AFAIK very few people are currently using the BBC's iplayer.

Graham

I might if I could get it to work on Vista ! (BBC - What's
Vista ?)..chuckle, they don't do MAC's either ;-)

I've installed it onto XP Pro on one of my backup PC's here at home,
tried it out.
Once I had logged into all the different login screens and then
attempted to do a download it said that there was an unknown network
problem and to contact the BBC.. I left it at that..might have another
go later..

I was actually surprised to get on the subscriber list (beta
testing ? )as they said that it was hugely oversubscribed.

Jim.

"Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:46C1BAB9.833DD03E@hotmail.com...
If the relative number of posts on the subject on various P2P message boards
is any guide, yes. You can't even download a very large video file in one
chunk. It has to be downloaded in smaller chunks then reassembled. It takes
a certain amount of ingenuity to reassemble the chunks into a usable file.
The bigger the file, the bigger the number of chunks and the more ingenuity
is required. Most people give up after one or two stages of reassembly.

Did you read the article? "[The BBC] expects to have 500,000 users before
the big marketing push [in autumn]"

(kim)

kim wrote:

ISTR that before I left plusnet up to half their traffic was p2p on occasions.


Says who ?


You're talking utter rubbish. I expect you have a useless ISP and are projecting
from your own experiences. Ah - AOL - explains a lot ! I've never had to do
anything of the sort.


That doesn't mean 500,000 active users.

Graham

jdr.smith@virgin.net wrote:

http://community.plus.net/comms/2007...windows-vista/

Rgds,

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