In message <66n5irF2kfuc7U1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones
<ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes

You may be able to plug a cable into the headphone jack and *that* into
the microphone input of a tape deck ... (instant record)

works for me, no smoke from anything :-)
--
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Rex M F Smith wrote:

I thought cassette tapes had been banned?


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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
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In news:tuHNj.90898$5i5.10426@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net,
DAB sounds worse than FM <dab.is@dead> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: Rex M F Smith wrote:
: > In message <66n5irF2kfuc7U1@mid.individual.net>, Ivor Jones
: > <ivor@thisaddressis.invalid> writes
: >
: >> there is plenty of software around that will
: >> record anything that passes through your soundcard.
: >
: > You may be able to plug a cable into the headphone jack and *that*
: > into the microphone input of a tape deck ... (instant record)
:
:
: I thought cassette tapes had been banned?

Eh..? By who, when and what for..?

Don't tell my disabled brother, he's physically unable to handle CD's and
has shedloads of tapes.

Ivor

In news:5qMNj.91009$5i5.89508@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net,
DAB sounds worse than FM <dab.is@dead> typed, for some strange,
unexplained reason:
: Ivor Jones wrote:
: > In news:tuHNj.90898$5i5.10426@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net,
: > DAB sounds worse than FM <dab.is@dead> typed, for some strange,
: > unexplained reason:

[snip]

: >> I thought cassette tapes had been banned?
: >
: > Eh..? By who, when and what for..?

: It was a joke - why would anyone ban cassette tapes?!

Ah. I always was a bit slow on the uptake.

: > Don't tell my disabled brother, he's physically unable to handle
: > CD's and has shedloads of tapes.

: So have I, but I dread to think what they'd sound like after years of
: them not being played so they'd probably be demagnetised or whatever
: it is that goes wrong with them as they age.

Well I've got plenty of 20-yr old VHS videos and they play ok, so I'd
expect audio tapes to be similar.

Ivor

Ivor Jones wrote:

It was a joke - why would anyone ban cassette tapes?!



So have I, but I dread to think what they'd sound like after years of them
not being played so they'd probably be demagnetised or whatever it is that
goes wrong with them as they age.


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The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

"Stuart Clark" <stuart.clark@Jahingo.com> wrote in message
news:36hcd5-3si.ln1@stuart.Jahingo.com...
: Cork Soaker wrote:
: > : That would help for P2P, but nothing else,
: >
: > Like the BBC iPlayer? The whole point of discussion?
: >
:
: The Flash iPlayer, which is the one all the ISPs are complaining about,
: doesn't use P2P.

The Flash player can and does invoke the Kontiki IE plugin.

:
: > : and even that would probably
: > : be quite marginal. How many people are likely to be downloading the
same
: > : torrent (or whatever other P2P system equivalent) at the same exchange
: >
: > You mean over multicast, say? Like, something from the BBC IP network?
: >
:
: Multicast is only useful for live streams, not video on demand or P2P.

I know that.

"Stuart Clark" <stuart.clark@Jahingo.com> wrote in message
news:edhcd5-3si.ln1@stuart.Jahingo.com...
: Cork Soaker wrote:
: > "stephen" <stephen_hope@xyzworld.com> wrote in message
: > news:RRtMj.7398$B83.1601@newsfe3-gui.ntli.net...
: > :
: > : IPv6 solves the issue of number of addresses (although that isnt
relevant
: > to
: > : this anyway).
: >
: > It also solves routing problems as IPv6 address are heirarchical - the
way
: > IPv4 was supposed to be, but it failed because registries were just
throwing
: > IPs anywhere to make up for the shortfall.
: >
: > This is why one node on a network has several different IPv6 addresses,
for
: > each network.
: >
:
: It could work if IP addresses where allocated by BT rather than by a
: particular ISP so they could be aggregated by exchange. But that then
: reduces the ISP to basically a reseller of the BT ISP.

IPv6 addresses are allocated automatically using an algorithm, it would
work, but I don't really care how. ;-)

"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:1208168737.24758.1@proxy02.news.clara.net...
: Cork Soaker wrote:
: > "Jason Clifford" <jason@ukfsn.org> wrote in message
: > news:fttnt7$9sb$1@localhost.localdomain...
: > : On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 20:18:22 +0100, Cork Soaker wrote:
: > :
: > : > : And to do that BT would have to inspect the content of all of your
:
: > : > communications - in breach of RIPA.
: > : >
: > : > No they don't. How do you think they route traffic in the first
place?
: > :
: > : So how to *you* suggest BT (or anyone else) should be able to
: > : discriminate as to which traffic to interfere with and which to allow
to
: > : pass on to the ISP in the normal manner or are you agreeing that the
only
: > : way such a system could work would be to abolish all ISPs other than
BT
: > : and hand control over them?
: >
: > They're called routing tables. Do you know how the internet works?
: >
: >
: A considerable amount better than you appear to do.
:
: You haven't a clue really, have you?

Clearly not. If you have nothing productive to say, shut up.

"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message
news:1208168471.23440.4@proxy02.news.clara.net...
: Cork Soaker wrote:
: > "Jason Clifford" <jason@ukfsn.org> wrote in message
: > news:ftt3la$m7m$1@localhost.localdomain...
: > : On Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:02:09 +0100, Cork Soaker wrote:
: > :
: > : > You missed the point about adding routing equipment at the exchange
: > : > didn't you?
: > :
: > : No I didn't but you seem to have missed my point which is that the
: > : proposal could only ever work if there was no ISP other than BT able
to
: > : offer service over their monopoly network.
: > :
: > : As others have pointed out ADSL is not just Internet delivery. BT
don't
: > : actually "see" the IP layer as such as it's encapsulated in a tunnel
back
: > : to the ISP who are the first point where traffic may legitimately be
: > : differentiated by which stage the cost elements have already been
: > : attracted so it's pointless to interfere.
: >
: > Routing equipment is easily able to route multiple ISP streams. If ten
: > users on ten different ISPs request the same content, then obviously
this
: > means ten streams. If more users from the same ISPs request the same
: > content then it's just ten streams.
: >
: > :
: > : Arguable BT could do as has been suggested for their own connections
: > : however that would give them an unfair advantage which OFCOM would
block
: > : for good reason.
: > :
: >
: >
: >
: You really haven't a clue, have you?
:

Time to plonk the tool. KF.

"The Natural Philosopher" <a@b.c> wrote in message

: I'm not anything any more thank heavens, But even then no, we were not a
: reseller.
:
: You haven't a clue really, have you?

Clearly more than you.

And you're right, you are not anything.

Cork Soaker <ISawYourMotherLast@night.invalid> wrote:
Not on my linux box it doesn't.
Chris

On Fri, 9 May 2008 15:41:59 UTC, Chris Davies
<chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:

So, how do you use BBC iplayer on that box, exactly? I'd like to know...

--
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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

Bob Eager <rde42@spamcop.net> wrote:
1. Start firefox ("iceweasel")
2. Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
3. Choose programme
4. "Click to play"

Actually, if I miss a programme I prefer to torrent the HD version,
because I can then watch that at my leisure (not necessarily within
seven days, or when online). Failing that, I download the DRM-free PDA
version and put up with the consequent lower quality.

Chris

On Fri, 9 May 2008 17:26:11 UTC, Chris Davies
<chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote:

So, which plugin are you using?

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"Chris Davies" <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote in message
news:j2eef5xfhe.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk...
That is just streamed video not iPlayer.

Not the official iPlayer stuff either.


So no iPlayer then?

"Chris Davies" <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7v7ef5xq8d.ln2@news.roaima.co.uk...
:> : The Flash iPlayer [...] doesn't use P2P.
:
: Cork Soaker <ISawYourMotherLast@night.invalid> wrote:
: > The Flash player can and does invoke the Kontiki IE plugin.
:
: Not on my linux box it doesn't.

Aha, fair point! lol

: > > So, how do you use BBC iplayer on that box, exactly? I'd like to
know...
: >
: > 1. Start firefox ("iceweasel")
: > 2. Go to http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer
: > 3. Choose programme
: > 4. "Click to play"
:
: So, which plugin are you using?

Flash, I would imagine.

On Fri, 9 May 2008 19:45:19 UTC, "Cork Soaker"
<ISawYourMotherLast@Night.invalid> wrote:

I imagine too..but it doesn't work very well on Linux, and I wanted to
know the details. Instead I just got a snide answer from him. There you
go...

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: > : So, which plugin are you using?
: >
: > Flash, I would imagine.
:
: I imagine too..but it doesn't work very well on Linux, and I wanted to
: know the details. Instead I just got a snide answer from him. There you
: go...
:

It works fine for me under Firefox and Iceape on Ubuntu?

On Fri, 9 May 2008 20:55:30 UTC, "Cork Soaker"
<ISawYourMotherLast@Night.invalid> wrote:

It works fine for me on Firefox, but only for Flash 7 and not iplayer.
Hence my question.
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Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
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