- line drops when a telephone is connected. Please Why?
- Posted by lenny on November 2nd, 2005
Hi
I have a 2mb connection. It seems to work fine but when I plug a telephone
into the line my connection is dropped. I have tried all the usual things to
stop this from happening including changing the phone, plugging into another
socket, changing the filters, trying without filters, taking sky off the
line but nothing seems to change. As soon as I plug a telephone back into
the line (at any point on the extension in the house) my broadband
connection is dropped and I am then unable to connect again until all the
telephones have been disconected again.
Has anyone come across this before and do you have have thoughts about what
might be the problem and how can I cure it? I have had BT out to check the
lines and they have not found any problems.
Regards,
Lenny
- Posted by Tiscali Tim on November 2nd, 2005
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
lenny <lenny109@takeout.hotmail.com> wrote:
Sounds like a bit of scientific diagnosis is required.
Have you got an NTE5 master socket with removeable faceplate? Is all your
extension wiring connected into the back of the faceplate? If the answer is
Yes to both questions, do the following.
1. Take out the 2 screws and remove the faceplate, letting it hang loose on
the extension wiring.
2. Plug the BB modem or router directly into the test socket behind the
faceplate. [You'll need a BT to RJ11 cable for this - maybe the one from
your old analog modem]. Check that the BB works.
3. Plug a filter/splitter into the test socket and connect your BB modem
into the ADSL outlet socket of the splitter (using the standard RJ11 to RJ11
cable). Check that the BB still works.
4. Now plug a phone into the phone outlet of the filter/splitter. Check that
the BB still works when the phone is both on hook and off hook.
If it *doesn't* work in the test socket, there is something wrong either
with the line or with the filter. Try some other filters and/or get BT to
fix the line.
If it *does* work - but won't work in any other socket (with the master
faceplace re-installed, of course!), it suggests a problem with your
extension wiring. Other than replacing it all, your best bet would be to use
a filtered faceflate - which will isolate your extension wiring from your
ADSL connection at source - and connect your BB kit into the ADSL outlet of
the filtered faceplate, running a digital extension to the required
location, if appropriate. [If you *are* running a digital extension, it's
best to use a modified faceplate such as the one from Clarity
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_faceplate_mod.htm which allows you to
wire into the back for neatness].
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Cheers,
Tim
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- Posted by lenny on November 2nd, 2005
thanks tim I will take a look and give it a go. Because we are quite a way
into the country (Lincolnshire) but only about 5K from the exchange, could
it also be that the broadband at 2mb is to much for the line. Would it make
any diffence to get the service dropped down to 1mb or even 512?
Cheers
Lenny
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- Posted by Phil Thompson on November 2nd, 2005
On Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:31:01 -0000, "lenny"
<lenny109@takeout.hotmail.com> wrote:
get some line stats and we might have a clue.
http://www.kitz.co.uk/adsl/frogstats.htm
lower speeds are always more stable, but your problem sounds to be a
dodgy phone or wrong filtering.
Phil
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- Posted by Tiscali Tim on November 2nd, 2005
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
lenny <lenny109@takeout.hotmail.com> wrote:
meet the criteria.
Does your modem or router provide any line stats (when it's working!) -
particularly Downstream Attenuation and Noise Margin (or SNR)? If so, what
are the figures?
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Cheers,
Tim
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- Posted by lenny on November 2nd, 2005
Thanks Tim and Phil,
I am using a modem from tiscali and will get the line stats in the morning
and post them here asap. (problem at another property)
Lenny
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- Posted by mark eldon on November 3rd, 2005
have a look at www.samknows.com
put your details in and it should advise if 2mb is supported where you are
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Great link! At last got some figures for my Belkin router.
Thanks,
Dave
- Posted by lenny on November 3rd, 2005
Hi Brian,
We have had BT out to the line and they have checked all the connections
between the property and the exchange. There is a clicking sound on the line
that sounds like an electic fence but BT are unable to work out where this
is coming from and I think they have now given up on the problem. We also
have Redcare on the line but they and BT say that it shouldn't cause any
problems.
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- Posted by Kraftee on November 3rd, 2005
Tiscali Tim wrote:
There have a large number of cases where ISP's have forced thru the 2 Mb
upgrade, so many that the BT field engineers have been told not to visit
but to refer each case to a special investigations department. At 5Km I
would expect that the line would be marginal if not completely outside
of limits...
- Posted by lenny on November 7th, 2005
Hi, I have sorted the problem by ripping out all of the extension wiring and
rewiring using some extra thick stuff that was lying around in the shed. The
same stuff that is used to go between the pole and the house. That seems to
have done the trick. It seems that the wire available from hardware stores
is not good enough.
Interesting point for anybody with a similar problem. It might not be that
the connection is to fast it might be that your extension wiring is crap!
Thanks for all the help in this matter, it is most appreciated.
Cheers
Lenny
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