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Master Socket
Posted by David Bradley on February 24th, 2004


I would like to get BT in to move the master socket into a new
position and have the ADSL / POTS plate fitted. The assumption that
all other existing POTS sockets in the home would not need a filter
when a telephone was plugged in.

What sort of budget should I allow for this work, and do I have to go
to BT?

David Bradley

Posted by Tiscali Tim on February 24th, 2004


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
David Bradley <powerman@nopost.com> wrote:

How does a budget of 15 quid and ten minutes' DIY effort grab you?

Have a look at http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm

If you got the current type of NTE5 master socket with a removeable
faceplate, you can replace it with an ADSL compatible faceplate, as per the
above link. If all your extensions are wired into the back of the new
faceplate, they'll all automatically be filtered without requiring
additional microfilters.

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Posted by Phil Thompson on February 24th, 2004


On Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:52:52 -0000, "Tiscali Tim" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:

that doesn't cover moving BT's master socket though, which is I think
their property and the householder isn't supposed to be playing with
the incoming wires on the back of it - their stuff is on the front.

Phil

Posted by Tiscali Tim on February 24th, 2004


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Phil Thompson <cynical_observer@hotmail.com> wrote:


Oops, you're right - he did! If he *really* wants the master socket moved it
is, indeed, a job for BT.

However, assuming that all the extension wiring is currently connected into
the back of the NTE5, it might be simpler to leave the master where it is,
and simply to transfer the extension wiring to the new faceplate. This would
then require a single digital extension to the computer location - which is
no more work than would be involved in transferring the POTS extension
wiring from one master socket location to another.

Actually, for a few quid extra, he could buy a modified faceplate which
enables the ADSL connection to be wired into the back - which may possibly
enable the digital extension wiring to be hidden.
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Posted by Broadback on February 25th, 2004


Tiscali Tim wrote:
major fault with my telephone line (overhead cable ripped out by passing
crane, no not the bird! :-) ). BT rerouted the cable entry into the
house, I moved their socket (again) to the most convenient point, BT
engineer came into the house and connected up, no problem at all.

Incidently I purchased my bits and pieces from Solwise.co.uk I found
them very efficient and helpfully. It was all very easy to do. Finally
if you have any problems with the wiring go to
http://www.telephonesuk.co.uk/wiring_info.htm

Cheers
John

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Posted by Tiscali Tim on February 25th, 2004


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Broadback <wen@towill.plus.com> wrote:


It's perfectly *possible* to move your own master socket - but the OP seemed
to be concerned about the legality of the whole thing as well as the
practicality!
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Posted by jazzy jeff on February 25th, 2004


Another option may be to leave the Master where it is and fit a second
Master socket which is connected to the current Master, then run extensions
off this new Master.

Worth considering, but may not be suitable to your needs

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Posted by Lurch on February 25th, 2004


On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 09:48:19 -0000, "jazzy jeff" <jg@nospam.com>
wrote:

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Posted by jazzy jeff on February 25th, 2004


You can do it yourself without breaking the law. You don't need to mess with
the BT side of the original Master, and the new Master is completely yours
and you can access both halves of it.
See http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/nte5.htm
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Posted by Lurch on February 25th, 2004


On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 11:20:01 -0000, "jazzy jeff" <jg@nospam.com>
wrote:

Still can't see why this would be better than just running a filtered
and unfiltered line from a modified NTE5 filter.
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

Posted by Tiscali Tim on February 25th, 2004


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Lurch <bill.gates@microsoft.com> wrote:


Particularly since the extensions will have to be moved from the original to
new master - otherwise they won't be filtered. Far better to fit a modified
faceplate into the original master.
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Posted by David Bradley on February 25th, 2004


On Wed, 25 Feb 2004 15:54:32 -0000, "Tiscali Tim" <me@privacy.net>
wrote:


Is the OP, just a couple of points. I would be happy to move the
master socket, but this is in someone else's house and he does
everything 'by the book'. A call to BT reveals the price to be £125
which seems odd considering a new line is installed for £99 but I'll
better not say anymore on this otherwise the 'perfectable reasonable
charge brigade' will pile into this thread.

But what comes out of all this is that it is 2-3-5 wiring to the slave
sockets. If you use the ADSL modified master that also, preseumable,
gives ADSL downstream as well as POTS, what is the wiring used and
which face plate is fitted at a 'slave position' to give both ADSL and
POTS?

Thanks for everyone's interest in this thread and for the useful
information provided.

David Bradley



Posted by Lurch on February 25th, 2004


for supplying the POTS devices via the normal 3 wires. In addition to
this you can also run 1 pair of wires, either as an additional pair in
the normal secondary wiring by using a 3 pair cable. The easiest way
to sort out the outlets is to use a double BT socket, independently
connected on the rear, use one side for POTS and one for ADSL.
Or, the other way is with a seperate cable from the unfiltered side of
the master to supply an unfiltered output to a single outlet.
...

SJW
A.C.S. Ltd.

Posted by Tiscali Tim on February 25th, 2004


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
David Bradley <powerman@nopost.com> wrote:

cable from the filtered connections to one or more ordinary POTS extension
sockets, and a separate cable from the unfiltered connections to an RJ11
socket for the ADSL connection. There's then no danger of getting them mixed
up!

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