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Microfilter question
Posted by usenet@isbd.co.uk on April 21st, 2005


We get ADSL on May 4th (BT willing).

The only place I need the ADSL connection is in my study where the BT
POTS line master socket is. There are several (like eight or nine)
phone sockets running from the same master socket, not all in use but
do get used occasionally.

Can I just put one microfilter in the master socket and then connect
all the phone extensions to the phone output of that one microfilter?

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Chris Green

Posted by Peter Crosland on April 21st, 2005


Yes!

Peter Crosland


Posted by usenet@isbd.co.uk on April 21st, 2005


Nigel M <reply@thegroup.com> wrote:
plugged in at the moment but the above is a neat (if a little
expensive) solution.


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Chris Green

Posted by Roger Cain on April 21st, 2005



<usenet@isbd.co.uk> wrote in message news:3cpcjgF6np1teU1@individual.net...
Hmm .. I would say no. Mainly because the ring capacitor in most filters
will only pass enough current to ring one or two handsets.



Posted by Peter Crosland on April 21st, 2005


I would add that the solution using a filered socket suggested by Nigel is
the best solution. In particular you get a good quality filter rather than
some of the rubbish plug in ones.

Peter Crosland


Posted by Tiscali Tim on April 21st, 2005


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
usenet@isbd.co.uk <usenet@isbd.co.uk> wrote:

It *may* work, but a far better solution - both technically and
aestetically - is to use a filtered faceplate (Solwise or Clarity) on the
master socket. Your extension wiring will definitely work with that (it only
*may* work with a plug-in filter), and it's neat because the extension
wiring will be connected to the *back* of the faceplate - rather than having
a cascade of tat plugged into the front, looking like a Christmas tree.
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Tim
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Posted by usenet@isbd.co.uk on April 22nd, 2005


Tiscali Tim <tele@privacy.net> wrote:
Yes, OK regarding the questionable quality (or size of ring capacitor)
in plug in filters. However the "cascade of tat" bit doesn't really
apply as there is currently simply a single lead plugged into the
socket which gets split at other places in the house and/or is 'looped
through' extension sockets.

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Posted by Peter Hill on April 22nd, 2005


I get ADSL on May 11, My main PC is in my loft, with the BT socket
downstairs. I have my router in the loft for better sygnal, and dial up is
via a longish extention.

Will I need 2 filters (one at the main socket and one in the loft)?

Will the ADSL work satisfactory from an extension lead, or should I try a
different solution?

I intend to have 4 PC's linked via a D-Link G604T Wireless Router.

Cheers
Peter

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Posted by Tiscali Tim on April 22nd, 2005


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
usenet@isbd.co.uk <usenet@isbd.co.uk> wrote:

Fair enough. It's just that most plug-in extension kits which I have seen
use a picka-back (sp?) type of plug incorporating an additional socket. Use
one of these on top of a plug-in filter, and the whole thing starts to look
a bit messy - and has numerous potential failure points.

A filtered faceplate with the extensions hard-wired into the back avoids all
of this!
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Tim
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Posted by Tiscali Tim on April 22nd, 2005


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Peter Hill <mail@NOSPAMpjhill.com> wrote:

phone, fax machine, analog modem etc. - unless you have a filtered faceplate
in your master socket, in which case you don't need any more filters.
However, in that case, your router would need to be connected to the ADSL
socket of the filtered faceplate - *not* to any of the extension sockets. If
you want to put the router a long way from the master socket, you would need
to run a *digital* extension for it. See the modified faceplate which
Clarity sell at http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm

Whatever you do, *don't* use a portable phone extension cable between the
master socket and router position. Many of these don't use proper twisted
pair phone cable, and have a very poor signal to noise ratio - making then
unsuitable for ADSL.

Where are your other PC's? I would have thought that you would want to put
your wireless router in some central location rather than in the attic.

Make sure that you can connect at least one PC to the router with a *wired*
connection for configuration purposes. It's all too easy to make a mistake
which prevents the router from talking to the PCs wirelessly - and then
you're stuffed if you only have wireless connections.

Also make sure that you gen up on and implement security measures to make it
more difficult for the world and his dog to gatecrash on your wireless LAN.
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Tim
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Posted by Peter Hill on April 25th, 2005


Very helpful.

My PC (best Spec - and most important obviously :-) ) is in the Attic, Each
of my two choldren and my wife have a PC (varying Specs) in their bedroom on
the first floor.

The nearest PC to the incoming BT socket is my wife's (poorest Spec). I've
not tried the Router there, but on the first floor, signal strength
constantly fluctiated from poor to very good, hence moving it to the loft.
There's an ADSL extension kit on
http://www.clarity.it/telecoms/adsl_bits.htm . Would that be an option?

Should I run an RJ45 cable from the Router to my machine?

I'm pretty new to networking. If I connected my machine via RJ45 to the
router, could I still communicate with thos on wireless?

Cheers Again
Peter


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Posted by Tiscali Tim on April 26th, 2005


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Peter Hill <mail@NOSPAMpjhill.com> wrote:

router somewhere else, then Clarity's ADSL extension kit would be fine.

wired connection for config purposes. There's no reason why it shouldn't be
permanent.

Absolutely! Everything connected to the router is part of the *same*
network - regardless of whether the connections are wired or wireless. File
transfers between your (wired) machine and the other wireless-connected ones
will, of course, be limited by the speed of the wireless link - but should
still be adequate.

Personally, I'm not sold on wireless networks - even though I've got one!
Actually, I've only got wirelessly-connected laptop to allow me to move it
around easily - the rest are wired. Unless you want to move PCs around a lot
or are averse to running a few ethernet cables from the router to each PC, a
wired network is far better in my view - faster, more reliable, less
security issues.
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Posted by Peter Hill on April 26th, 2005


This is really good help.

My final solution is place the Router in "our" bedroom next to the wife's PC
using ADSL extention kit. Then Hard wire to mine in the loft and hers with
wireless for the boys (although wired would be possible in the future)

I'll get the stuff ordered

Cheers Again

Peter


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Posted by Tiscali Tim on April 26th, 2005


In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Peter Hill <mail@NOSPAMpjhill.com> wrote:


DO make sure that you gen up on wireless security, though - encryption/MAC
address filtering/turning off SSID broadcasting.
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Tim
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