http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
works a treat

six-toes wrote:
Firstly you forgot to tell anyone it's in Beta testing (mind you what MS
product isn't) & secondly it works so well because it isn't directly a MS
product. All MS has done is bought out a small companies product &
repackaged it. Give them a couple of months/updates & it will be as equally
borked as most other MS products are & as such will not be trustworthy or
dependable, seeing that it is supposedly a security product...

On 16 Jan 2005 11:40:10 -0800, "six-toes" <sixty_toes@hotmail.com>
strung together this:

I've just seen that somwhere else, but I can start XP bashing here
though.
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Bearing in mind the deluge of 'crap' that accompanies any use of
Internet Explorer, I wouldn't touch any of their products in this line
with a barge pole!

"Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:xfadnSRG-dfTVXfcRVnysg@eclipse.net.uk...
Well, six-toes (I wonder if thats true) is only bringing it to peoples
attention, you are not forced
to use it. Which browser are you using BTW?

Dougal wrote:
The IT folk at work have banned it, they believe (right or wrong ? they
not the most reliable source of IT expertise) that when it goes to V1 in
July it will be on subscription and that it might not be easy to prevent
the beta from upgrading itself and demanding payment.

Hey sounds like it IS spyware !

Bill

"Bill" <ngaccount@gen_luncheonmeatbanned_sheet.co.uk> wrote in message
news:csem3c$lat$1@ngspool-d02.news.aol.com...
I look at it this way, free Anti Spyware software for my network clients
until Microsoft decide to charge for it. We don't have any other
anti-spyware software at the moment so it is sorely needed.

When it becomes chargeable I will review the effectiveness of the product
and if it has saved us time and money then licensing it could be a distinct
possibility. If the pricing is silly then we will look elsewhere but I think
it is more than likely Microsoft will charge no more than required to cover
their costs. It is their software that is insecure after all!

I wouldn't expect the beta to upgrade itself at all, in fact I would be
annoyed if ANY software updated itself without my say so, they will have the
desktops locked down and users shouldn't have permisssions to install
software themselves.
Andy.

six-toes <sixty_toes@hotmail.com> wrote:

Pretty useless for my mac
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"Dougal" <DougalAThiskennel.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
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What OS are you using?

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when i compared it with other similar packages the MS product found the
most crap !
so i give it a go till they charge

On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 09:15:35 -0000, Mugwump <me@privacy.net> wrote:

Buy bigger tinfoil hats.

1. The IT folk at work are probably right to ban the use of beta
unsupported software
2. The uninstall instructions are on the linked page, and are obvious.
There is no issue with preventing it from updating itself - just
uninstall it.
3. It might well be on subscription when it goes gold, but there is no
way installing the beta will oblige you to pay for the gold version,
and if MS intend to charge for it they are as sure as hell not going
to install it as an upgrade in the vague hope you will pay (the
license say they will not)
4. There is nothing in the license about sending your surfing (or
other) habits to MS. You consent to receive updates from them - a
spyware tool that does not update will be useful for a very short
time.

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 18:16:53 +0000, andy wrote:

No it is not sorely needed.
There are many spyware blasters available for download, most of them
free,
Try adaware, spybot search&destroy, and spyware doctor for starters.

roy

"roy" <roy***@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
newsan.2005.01.19.09.57.15.718927@yahoo.co.uk...

I should have been clearer, it's sorely needed for the corporate desktop
environment where the budget isn't yet available for a syware solution.

The other point is who knows Windows better than Microsoft? They know
exactly what services and plugins should be present.

Andy.

HA HA This will be the MS who tell you windows is secure !!

Dave

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On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 11:25:42 -0800, six-toes wrote:

It ought to !!, its running under the biggest pile.

Dave

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"six-toes" <sixty_toes@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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We were sent this to trial last week, seems OK (we use Ad-Aware as a
company, and it seemed to find more items - particularly liked the suspect
programs option). MS will not comment on whether it will be free or have
some kind of charge involved for corporates; this would be ultimate irony if
it was the latter.

Hold on, isn't this UKtm??

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On Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:27:19 -0000, ">-©LuVbuG©-<"
<anthony_deadabo@hotmail.com> strung together this:

Not here it isn't.
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