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NAT x2
Posted by Geoff Lane on September 25th, 2004


I've got a WiFi network operating from behind a NAT router.

I've got a range problem with my handheld and am wondering about a
workaround that would solve a problem.

My laptop accesses the AP which is connected to the router.

Could the handheld access the internet via my laptop which itself
connects via the WiFi.

Put simply, can an internet connection be NATed twice?

I do have a second WiFi card that can connect to my laptop (One PCMCIA
and one USB).

Geoff Lane

Posted by Grant on September 25th, 2004


"Geoff Lane" geoff@3lanesREMOVE.freeserve.co.uk wrote in message
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Your wireless laptop will only be able to connect to a wireless gateway - it
won't be able to act as a gateway for your PDA.

I've had a quick look and can't find any evidence of a USB/PCMCIA wireless
mini gateway being available.



Posted by Geoff Lane on September 25th, 2004


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:52:57 +0100, "Grant" <news@mason.sh> wrote:

Thanks for prompt reply - just a thought.

Geoff Lane



Posted by dennis@home on September 25th, 2004



"Geoff Lane" <geoff@3lanesREMOVE.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Yes I have done so with a WiFi card to a NAT router for the Internet
connection
and a bluetooth connection on the PDA (using windows ICS).

There was an article in the Microsoft knowledge base about having to enable
promiscuous
mode using a command line which I had to do before mine works.
http://support.microsoft.com/default...&Product=winxp


Posted by Alex Heney on September 25th, 2004


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 18:52:57 +0100, "Grant" <news@mason.sh> wrote:

Why not?

Posted by David Wood on September 25th, 2004


In message <pUi5d.1162$ED.637@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>, "dennis@home"
<dennis@killspam.kicks-ass.net> writes
If the laptop runs Windows XP (feature may only be in XP Professional),
bridge the two wireless connections together. That way, it becomes
logically one network.



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Posted by Timothy Baldwin on September 25th, 2004


In message <1096134783.24967.0@nnrp-t71-03.news.uk.clara.net>, Grant
<news@mason.sh> wrote:

It will, with the right software. For example the Linux Host AP driver can
do this, with only one WiFi card.


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Posted by Grant on September 25th, 2004


"Timothy Baldwin" T.E.Baldwin99@members.leeds.ac.uk wrote in message
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I sit corrected. I understood an AP couldn't act as a gateway without the
appriopriate internals. Thanks for the correction.



Posted by Geoff Lane on September 26th, 2004


On Sat, 25 Sep 2004 22:30:59 +0100, David Wood <david@wood2.org.uk>
wrote:

At the moment I am not having much luck with bridging; I've got a WiFi
card, a Bluetooth connection and an ethernet.

Just for practice I've tried bridging two but each time I include the
WiFi I lose my WiFi connection so to date I've not been sure if it's
the bridging that is a problem or my settings.

Geoff Lane


Posted by Grant on September 26th, 2004


"Geoff Lane" geoff@3lanesREMOVE.freeserve.co.uk wrote in message
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In the past, I've had success creating an ActiveSync connection between a
BT-enabled PocketPC and a laptop with a BT card. The PDA would then
piggyback and use the laptop's wired Internet connection - don't see why it
wouldn't be able to do the same with a wireless connection.

This was on W2K and didn't require any bridging or Windows networking
changes - just standard out-of-the-box ActiveSync functionality.

HTH.



Posted by David Wood on September 26th, 2004


In message <1096191101.93118.0@dyke.uk.clara.net>, Grant <news@mason.sh>
writes
That way of working is using a Bluetooth serial port.


It can be faster if both the Pocket PC and the laptop support it to use
the Bluetooth network profile - possibly bridging that to the wired or
wireless LAN connectivity in the laptop. I have done both (iPAQ 3970
running ROM 4.00.08, which is the Pocket PC 2003 ROM with a Dell
Latitude D600 running Windows XP Professional and the new BTW 3.0
software for the built in Bluetooth card).

A Bluetooth serial port maxes out at 115200bps. A Bluetooth network
connection can reach something like 300kbps.



David
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Posted by Alex Heney on September 26th, 2004


On Sun, 26 Sep 2004 09:50:06 +0100, Geoff Lane
<geoff@3lanesREMOVE.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

I also found that in order to get the WiFi connection working with my
laptop (XP Home), I had to take the wireless connection out of the
bridge.

So long as it was in the bridge, it could see the network, and connect
to it, but could not actually see anything on the network, or pass
data. If I tried to "repair" it, I got a message saying that it was
not configured for TCP/IP.

As soon as I removed it from the bridge, in order to configure that,
it started working perfectly.

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