We are in the process of setting up a network ready to go broadband. This is
between a Mac and a PC with a Belkin router/modem.

The Mac is talking to the router with no problems, but when we try to access
the management page of the router we can't. Does anyone know why? Do we have
to wait until we get the broadband information in? Is there a way round this?

Thanks

Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 07:51:53 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

I replied in uk.comp.home-networking

what IP addresses on Belkin, PC and Mac
what model Belkin

If you can't talk to the router you can't input the ISP details.

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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In article <n8r0815pcjun9pnvp1tl1ja95p0v39lr2m@4ax.com>, Phil Thompson <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote:
Belkin is a 4 switch one modem/router, it's at home so I can't look at it and
give any further details just now.
Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

JJJJ <notarealaddress@dotcom.uk> wrote:
Meaning that the Mac can ping the router but can't get to its management
page, or are you implicitly saying that the "other" machine can't get to
the management page, but that the Mac can?

How do you know your Mac is talking to the router?

What IP address(es) have your Mac and the Router got? Were these from
DHCP or statically allocated?

Chris

In article <n486l2-m78.ln1@news.roaima.co.uk>, chris@roaima.co.uk wrote:
can't get to the management page on either PC or Mac. But I need to check
addresses on the Mac to see if they match the router.

Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 08:18:42 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

define what this means please.

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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In article <blv081ht5mqi2dttrc2h9b8n7cf1jk6u9d@4ax.com>, Phil Thompson <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote:
Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 09:18:36 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

that may mean it got an IP address from the router. You'll do better
talking in here about PCs I suspect.

What IP address do you think the router is on ? What error message
does the PC give if you put that in the URL bar ?

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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On Tue, 10 May 2005 09:32:31 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

it talks to you ?

its connected to what ?

Phil
Tiscali - dialup speeds at Broadband prices :-)

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In article <jq0181lfmdk1didr09ai4j02b0tnls0j09@4ax.com>, Phil Thompson <phil.thompson@spamcop.net> wrote:
connected to Belkin
Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

In article <d5pp5h$abk$3@news.ox.ac.uk>,
JJJJ <notarealaddress@dotcom.uk> wrote:
Are you sure your router is on the same subnet as the computers? When I
installed my broadband router it defaulted its address to 192.168.1.1.
Previously I had had my ethernet on 192.168.0 and my wifi on 192.168.2.
I had to move everything to 192.168.1 before I could get it to work.

Your router may be routing - passing the packets around - without
actually recognising itself as a destination.

I could have reconfigured one computer for just long enough to establish
contact and to change the router's address, but I considered it simpler
and more robust to change all the computers and to leave the router at
its default address.

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John F Hall

On Tue, 10 May 2005 09:54:22 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

eek, sounds like some uPnP wizadry if it got a name from the thing
from somewhere.

If you can ping the Belkin's IP address but not connect to its web
page do you need to tell the browser to use the netwrok rather than
its other option (modem ?) for example on a PC you put "never dial a
connection" into Internet Explorer to give it the hint where to look.

T'other thing to check is if the Mac and PC have got the Belkin's IP
address as their "default gateway". Enjoy.

Phil

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
JJJJ <notarealaddress@dotcom.uk> wrote:

I don't know much about MACs! What happens when you connect the PC?

I presume that, by default, the router can act as a DHCP server - which
dishes out IP addresses to the other devices on your network? If so, make
sure that the router is returned to factory settings - there should be some
way of doing this by pressing something or other during power up - read the
manual! Then connect the PC, and configure the PC's network card to get an
IP address automatically. The PC should then be able to talk to the router.

The router manual should tell you its default IP address - probably
something like 192.168.1.1

Assuming is it that, run a browser of the PC, and in the address bar, type:
http://192.168.1.1

This should get you to the router's admin logon screen. You will need a
password. The manual will tell you what the default password is - but it
will most likely be "admin". Type that in, and away you go.

You'll need to configure the MAC to get its IP address automatically from
the router. I haven't a clue how to do that - but you probably know anyway.

Alternatively, if you know what you're doing - and understand IP addressing
and subnet masks - you can give everything fixed IP address and disable the
DHCP server function of the router. That would certainly be my preference.
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Cheers,
Tim
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John F Hall <jfh@avondale.demon.co.uk> wrote:
'Any IP' which allows them to work on other subnets. I have my home
subnet set to 192.168.13.xxx and my Zyxel 660H was 'visible' from
Windows machines without any changes. However my Linux system which
knows about proper default routing and such wouldn't play ball with
the Zyxel.

I now have the Zyxel on the 13 subnet and all works OK.

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Chris Green

In article <3ebm59F25knuU1@individual.net>, "Tiscali Tim" <tele@privacy.net> wrote:
192.168.2.xx.

Jules
There are two respites from the miseries of life - music and cats.

On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:29:28 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

the latter will have come from the Belkin I think, it defaults to
192.168.2.1 according to the useful site
http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/~arb/belkinadsl/

if you look at the properies on the Network Connection in WinXP it
tells you if its manual, alternate manual or DHCP supplied.

Phil

On Tue, 10 May 2005 13:29:28 GMT, notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ)
wrote:

<snip>

OS9 - Control Panels | TCP/IP
OSX - System Prefs | Network | Built-in-Ethernet

- ian

notarealaddress@dotcom.uk (JJJJ) wrote in news:d5q0b6$d7h$1
@news.ox.ac.uk:

Are you using a wired network or a wireless network on the Belkin? If
wireless it could be saying connected to Belkin (Belkin being the SSID)
but it isn't able to get an IP from the DHCP server

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Colin
*Drop DEAD from the email address to reply*

Might pay you to post in uk.comp.sys.mac

Dave

Sorry I see you have

Dave