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New phone ring
Posted by NH on July 26th, 2007


Just a silly little query. Since my line was changed over to DSL Max last
week my phones now ring differently, one single ring with long pauses
between instead of the usual double ring. Is this normal?
I know its not that important, just curious.


Posted by Kraftee on July 26th, 2007


NH wrote:
It shouldn't make any difference at all but.....what with the many
variables of what could be on your line (in your house) & then add a
couple/few/several filters with capacitors in them as well it could
make a difference. Just make sure that you've only go the one socket
with the ringing circuit (if you haven't got a NTE5a/b look for a
large cylindrical capacitor, normally yellow, on the circuit board
behind the socket & there should be only one on your circuit) & that
everything is filtered efficiently (least amount of filters used for
maximum affect) you can't really go wrong. Changed one users low
..1Mbps to a 1.4Mbps just by doing that today so it works, you've just
got to know how to join the dots up.



Posted by Mortimer on July 27th, 2007


"Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
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I can't see how the *same* phone(s) could go from ringing UK-style (ring,
ring [pause] ring, ring) to ringing US-style (ring [longer pause] ring) just
by the addition of microfilters or by changing the house wiring.

Surely the AC ringing current is generated at the exchange and fed to the
phone without being regenerated anywhere except maybe in the phone.

What the phone does with the ring current is another matter - my Panasonic
and BT DECT phones have always given a US-style single ring, probably
because the ring tone is generated locally in the phone handset, triggered
by the base unit sensing the ringing current.

Since DSL was enabled on my line a few years ago, the line has always given
a very brief ring before the main ring(s) - a hard-wired phone goes "r
[pause] ring, ring [pause] ring, ring" and the DECT phones go "r [pause]
ring [longer pause] ring".



Posted by Kraftee on July 27th, 2007


Mortimer wrote:
The differences can be caused by leakage from multiple capacitors
each, each one on their own & used correctly would be ok but when used
in multiples it can change your ringing cadance. The last time I met
up with this was on a faint transmision fault & I found 5 system
master sockets as well as an NTE5, when the phones rang it was just
one long ring (it's amazing that the customers hadn't complained about
that as well). Remove the capacitors from all the system master
sockets & ringing went to normal.

Now take that & put it into the scenario which the OP is talking
about, we know nothing about his existing sockets, may be full master
sockets, may be system master sockets, may be normal slave or any
combination of all three & then you put into the mix the filters with
their extra capacitors. I do hope you can see where I'm going.

Yes in an ideal world there should be no change but it's a far from
ideal world so what I suggested could be the cause. I've even known a
leakage to earth from a faulty extension socket create the long ring,
short ring cadance, go figure. Changed the socket & back to normal
once again.



Posted by Eeyore on July 27th, 2007




Kraftee wrote:

*leakage current* ?

Are you serious ?

Graham




Posted by Kraftee on July 27th, 2007


Eeyore wrote:
Certainly but are you ever?



Posted by NH on July 30th, 2007



"Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
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nothing has changed - except one day I was on fixed speed broadband and the
next I was switched to their LLU equipment. I've tried unplugging each of
the phones (2 normal phone and a set of DECT phones) and nothing changed



Posted by NH on July 30th, 2007



"Kraftee" <kraftee@b&e-cottee.me.uk> wrote in message
news:zOmdndl58d99uDTbRVnyggA@bt.com...
nothing has changed - except one day I was on fixed speed broadband and the
next I was on their LLU equipment. I tried unplugging each of my phones (2
normal and a set of DECT phones) and nothing changed



Posted by NH on July 31st, 2007



"NH" <NH@NO_SPAMm183.co.uk> wrote in message news:f8l0cq$6ro$1@aioe.org...
into the master socket (the one behind the faceplate) and it was still the
same. I've also noticed that my caller display only operates intermittingly
(more often not to be exact)




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