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new provider and newsgroups
Posted by johngood_____ on April 20th, 2008


In looking around for another ISP, I've found one that I think that I might
sign up with. But they tell me that they do not provide access to Newsgroup
via Outlook Express.

Since I want to regularly access Newsgroups and don't want the inconvenience
of accessing Newsgroups through Google; is there a reasonably priced and
easy way for me to get to the Newsgroups using this new provider please. I
phoned up the technical line and they said to use RSS feeds, I did a search
on this but it doesn't seem to me to connect in any way with Newsgroups as
far as I can see. Thanks for any advice.



Posted by Bob Eager on April 20th, 2008


On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:30:10 UTC, "johngood_____" <void@voidacious.net>
wrote:

news.individual.net

Frankly, if this new provider thinks RSS feeds are a viable alternative,
I wouldn't use them!

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Posted by Bruce Hagen on April 20th, 2008


"johngood_____" <void@voidacious.net> wrote in message
news:SrIOj.93844$5i5.30234@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...

Free and Public Usenet News Servers:
http://freenews.maxbaud.net/

Find a news server at:
http://www.newzbot.com/
--
Bruce Hagen
MS-MVP


Posted by George on April 20th, 2008


johngood_____ wrote:
Newsgroups is not a profitable business for ISP's. It's better to
access NG directly using a good NG reader like Thunderbird or whatever
or even browsing Google Groups.

Posted by Graham. on April 20th, 2008




"johngood_____" <void@voidacious.net> wrote in message
news:SrIOj.93844$5i5.30234@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...

I have been very satisfied with the free one I am using.
http://news.motzarella.org/RegisterNewsAccount.php

<hint>
They do however impose a limit on the number of groups
a you can x-post to, so it might not be ideal for you .
<\hint>
--
Graham

%Profound_observation%



Posted by John on April 20th, 2008


{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Hey, Welcome - can you please explain your sig in a bit more detail? I live
in Preston and I'm on BT Internet (or whatever they're calling themselves
this week) but a neighbour four doors down is on Virgin cable, so I'm
curious now.

John



Posted by Barb on April 20th, 2008




I concur - I'm on Sky, which doesn't have any usenet access, and I'm now
using motzarella with OE, which works fine for text. I subscribe to
EasyNews for binaries - been with them for years, cheap and reliable.

Barb UK



Posted by Bob Eager on April 20th, 2008


On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:58:21 UTC, George <nospam@please.com> wrote:

What do you mean 'directly'? You still need to find a server...
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Posted by johannes on April 20th, 2008




johngood_____ wrote:
Although there are loads of different e-mail clients, many of them free and
Outlook Express is not everybody's cuppa, OE is fairly standard and commonly
used. Sounds to me like some misunderstanding of what the ISP has told you.
I can't see why they should object to Outlook Express in particular. Here,
I'm using Netscape Messenger.

Posted by PeterT on April 20th, 2008


On Sun, 20 Apr 2008 14:30:10 GMT, "johngood_____"
<void@voidacious.net> wrote:

Ditch Outlook Express and use Agent, then sign up for
News.Individual.NET at 10 euros a year, but no binaries
--
Cheers

Peter

Posted by Eeyore on April 20th, 2008




johngood_____ wrote:

Well there's nothing special about how Outlook Express reads nntp so that
suggests to me they don't know what they're talking about.

An ISP having a news server is NO reason for choosing one anyway when a $10
one-off purchase for 25GB from astranews may last you years.

Graham


Posted by Eeyore on April 20th, 2008




johannes wrote:

An excellent choice IMHO. So do I . The user interface is simple, uncluttered and
it all works.

Graham



Posted by George on April 20th, 2008


Bob Eager wrote:
Many years ago ISP's used newsgroups servers as a repository within the
Usenet system. Individual users read from and post messages to a local
server operated by their ISP. The servers then exchanged the messages
between other servers, so that they were available to readers beyond the
original server. Most ISP's do not run those servers anymore, so you
must access newsgroups servers directly using whatever client you wish.

Posted by George Weston on April 20th, 2008



"George" <nospam@please.com> wrote in message
news:eyCpp4voIHA.4912@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
Very many still do.
BT, Plusnet - to name but two.

George



Posted by SteveH on April 20th, 2008


George <nospam@please.com> wrote:

Care to expain what the hell it is you're wibbling on about? - 'cos it
looks like complete nonsense to me.
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Posted by larry on April 20th, 2008


Graham. wrote:

What? this is a bad thing? like the OP on 5 groups?

xposter=spammer

Thanks for the Sunday morning funny...

-- larry/dallas

Posted by DubDriver on April 20th, 2008



"johannes" <johs@sizef4467866445itter.com> wrote in message
news:480B5D94.985C14B3@sizef4467866445itter.com...
I think you'll find that what the ISP meant by "But they tell me that they
do not provide access to Newsgroup
via Outlook Express." was "But they tell me that they do not provide access
to Newsgroup
via Outlook Express or any other client because they don't have their own
news server"

The solution thankfully has already been posted.



Posted by John on April 20th, 2008


{{{{{Welcome}}}}} wrote:
Thanks for that, Welcome - very interesting.

John.



Posted by Kenny on April 20th, 2008


I dropped Wanadoo some time ago because they dropped their newsserver.
Signed up with Madasafish and happy with them so far. I have an "up to
8meg" speed and a 20Gb monthly allowance for £17.99. That's split 10Gb news
and 10Gb internet.
For downloading binaries you'll need something other than OE. I'm using
Newsbin Pro but there aoters like Forte Agent.

--
Kenny Cargill




"johannes" <johs@sizef4467866445itter.com> wrote in message
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Posted by johannes on April 20th, 2008




Eeyore wrote:
Yes, and Netscape Messenger has build-in spell checker. OE only gives you
spell checker if you have MS Office installed. Netscape Messenger has a more
transparent file organisation which makes it easier to archive and retrieve
messages from file backup.