On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:19:24 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

Ha ha Go on then.

In message <cr1jo5$9v2$1@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Dave
<not.valid.for@privacy.net> writes
Remind us again where our "conversation" started DTCF. You can give it
but not take it. That probably means that you have to do reach arounds
if you are ever lucky enough to get yourself a "partner". Fancy having
to bleat about me to anyone who will listen, what a cry baby. I thought
that your one saving grace after knowing cock all and talking shite on a
regular basis was your thick skin. Obviously not. Never mind Princess,
dry your eyes, there's always the kill file.
--
Pete Devlin
[{//////news03//////at\\\\\secondrow/////co\\\\\uk}]
"Mind the oranges Marlon!"

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 19:14:56 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

<snip>
If I was short of space, I might.


<snip>
I certainly don't recall that. Do you have any idea who/when?

I know some people suggested it would improve *connection* speeds, but
that is not the same as improving *usenet* speeds.


No it hasn't.


Why would only having "light" users make any significant difference to
the likelihood of a server fault?

And it *certainly* would not help in bringing that server back up to
date, since that relies on incoming feeds, not what the users request.

True.

That I will certainly admit. And there are very few of the normal
posters who do either.


I would still argue that the particular word in question is not
normally regarded as a swear word, even though it most definitely is
if you take off the "wit".
--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
"Keyboard? How quaint!" - Scotty

To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

"pete devlin" <spamtrap@secondrow.co.uk> wrote in message
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*Sigh*, Even alex from previous debates knows i dont need to use swear
words in a conversation, and if the conversation needs swearing i edit it
out (thats called respect, not that you would know) so as for giving but
not taking, i guess its more a case of taking but not lowering myself to
your level to give.

"Alex Heney" <me8@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Id probably use it for storing some programs that are hard to find nowadays


A PN member of staff i quote from elsewhere of the heavy use pipe "This
will improve service to all our customers"

No but their usenet access is part of their service is it not?? and
therefore as their usenet service has slowed down, the comment of "This
will improve service to all our customers" is nothing more then a lie.

Speeds of their usenet service have got slower, people have had dns probs
and email probs, hardly an improvement and as the usenet side of things has
slowed, that IMO is a "degradation of speed"

Two of the three servers are working, so having light users only surely
wouldnt cause a prob

Ah so its just another PN cockup then, with regards to service and
equipment


Pete likes swear words, whether you want to bring up the arguement of the
swearing being used in a name calling manner is pointless.

Oh pleeeeease, thats such a weak arguement im not even gonna justify it,
fact of the matter is he used a certain combination of four letters aranged
in such a manner that they spell a word that some would find offensive,
unless you are sincerely trying to say that if i was to add the word "you"
on the end of his four lettered word as a response to each of his posts
that would be deemed acceptable?

"PzychoBilly" <GRAVEYARD.STOMP@stomp.com> wrote in message
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LOL, somebody has been looking in the mirror too long today

Idiot learn what a whois lookup is then when you are use your crap proxy
software in future, may i suggest you visit a site with annon proxies, cos
the NNTP you are posting from, im sure you wont be for long.

"PzychoBilly" <GRAVEYARD.STOMP@stomp.com> wrote in message
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*inhales..... exhales.........PzychoBilly is flattened, wow that was easy*

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:20:06 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

Bwahahahaha Fuckwit.

Wanna bet you lardarse, soft belly, whining, snitzer sniffing homo
prick.


--





Ace Of Spades


If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man,

You win some, lose some, all the same to me,

The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say,

I don't share your greed, the only card I need is

The Ace Of Spades


Playing for the high one, dancing with the devil,

Going with the flow, it's all the same to me,

Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,

Double up or quit, double stake or split,

The Ace Of Spades


You know I'm born to lose, and gambling's for fools,

But that's the way I like it baby,

I don't wanna live for ever,

And don't forget the joker!


Pushing up the ante, I know you've got to see me,

Read 'em and weep, the dead man's hand again,

I see it in your eyes, take one look and die,

The only thing you see, you know it's gonna be,

The Ace Of Spades

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:22:07 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

You sound like a windbag, act like a windbag and are now a confirmed
winbag you impotent, dick blowing whore.


--





Ace Of Spades


If you like to gamble, I tell you I'm your man,

You win some, lose some, all the same to me,

The pleasure is to play, makes no difference what you say,

I don't share your greed, the only card I need is

The Ace Of Spades


Playing for the high one, dancing with the devil,

Going with the flow, it's all the same to me,

Seven or Eleven, snake eyes watching you,

Double up or quit, double stake or split,

The Ace Of Spades


You know I'm born to lose, and gambling's for fools,

But that's the way I like it baby,

I don't wanna live for ever,

And don't forget the joker!


Pushing up the ante, I know you've got to see me,

Read 'em and weep, the dead man's hand again,

I see it in your eyes, take one look and die,

The only thing you see, you know it's gonna be,

The Ace Of Spades

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:36:45 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

Yeah, want I jack one up your nose?

"Ace-Of-Spades" <Ace@motorhead.it> wrote
snip..........
Oh dear mummy has let you have one too many tubes of sherbet again

"Ace-Of-Spades" <Ace@motorhead.it> wrote
snip...
Silly Troll!

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 12:39:12 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:

So go tell your mum the bad boyz are picking on you coz yer an ass.

On Fri, 31 Dec 2004 03:16:59 -0000, "Dave" <not.valid.for@privacy.net>
wrote:


Which does not say that *usenet* speeds will improve.

No it isn't.

This is a separate issue. The fact that something else goes wrong,
that partially counteracts the "improvement", does not make the
improvement a lie.

Having said that, I'm not convinced it was ever going to improve the
service in terms of making it better than it currently was. All it was
going to do was stop the predicted degradation of the service.

They *might* try to argue that if things are now better than they
would have been, that is an improvement, even if they are no better
than they were, but IMO, that is stretching the definition of
"improvement" to breaking point.

Do you have any evidence that usenet speeds have actually got slower?
I said earlier in this thread that they *might* be.

The only actual complaints I have noticed recently about usenet have
been about completion in the binary groups, which is a different
issue.

I'm not sure it is causing problems.

But you are being very simplistic there. Even if the "bad boys" were
all using usenet in proportion to their general usage, that would only
mean a 10% drop in load if they all disappeared. So with a temporary
33% drop in capacity, it will still be noticed, unless there was
significant over capacity before.


Yep. A minor one, since service continues, but yes, it is a fault.

He does swear more than some, but still not a lot.


No.

I'm just saying that the way that particular word is used and
accepted, it is obviously an insult, but doesn't generally seem to be
regarded as a swear word.

That doesn't mean that adding any combination of letters you like to
it will have that effect, it means *only* that the specific
combination in question seems to have had that effect.

--
Alex Heney, Global Villager
Push the limit, and the limit will move away!

To reply by email, my address is alexATheneyDOTplusDOTcom

"Alex Heney" <me8@privacy.net> wrote in message
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No but at the same time i wouldnt call a part of their service which slows
down an "improvement"

Its not an improvement for a service to slow down, you can argue and
wriggle all you like, but there is no way you can say you are gonna improve
things and then let some of those things get even worse

Personally I dont think it was gonna do anything except save them cash that
they would have to pay under the no charging scheme

I agree

Apart from users saying it has and the reports from adslguide and similar
sites no i dont, however if you want to go do that tunnel, that would mean
everyone except PN are lieing.

There have been a few posts about speed issues

It did

I see what you are trying to say there, however we dont have a figure of
how many badboys are or are not still using it.
Therefore the 10% percent figure you mention are pure speculation
(obviously the 33% figure is acurate, or as close as accurate though )

Great ISP, limits users, has cockups that dont get fixed even though they
are meant to be 24/7 in support terms eh?

The amount is not the point the content is the point

I can tell you now by many ISPs standards it is not acceptable

if i add the word you to the 4 lettered swear word in question it would
still be an insult
many ISPs AUP policies state that you shouldnt be abusive, which means
whether you have the words"****WIT" or "****YOU" it is abusive and
therefore not acceptable, it doesnt matter what personally you see as the
definition of the word/s it is offensive and being offensive or abusive is
against most AUP policies.

"PzychoBilly" <GRAVEYARD.STOMP@stomp.com> wrote in message
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Nah you better keep it for yourself, i wouldnt want to spoil your
hyperactivity session

"PzychoBilly" <GRAVEYARD.STOMP@stomp.com> wrote in message
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Oh dear, did the bigger boys teach you the technique of adding the letter
"z" onto words, or is it just yet another brain deficiency you have?

On Sat, 01 Jan 2005 11:56:47 +0000, pete <pete@maildox.com> wrote:

Quite so why you feeding the prick, prick?

"PzychoBilly" <GRAVEYARD.STOMP@stomp.com> wrote in message
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Oh dear cant even follow a coversation now eh?