I currently have ADSL broadband on my BT phoneline, but i want to ge
addictional broadband which is NTL cable broadband. Is it possible t
have both ADSL broadband and NTL cable broadband in the same house? I
i were to get NTL cable broadband would this affect my BT phoneline i
anyway? I heard if i were to get NTL broadband, my BT phoneline woul
change, is this true

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In article <Tyson.1x5hmw@broadbandbanter.com>,
Tyson.1x5hmw@broadbandbanter.com says...
Nope - it you're in an NTL cable area they would run an extra cable into
your house. The flipside is they *might* lumber you with a second phone
line.

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:55:42 +0100, Tyson wrote:

I have NTL cable broadband and a BT phoneline.

No problems whatsoever.
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Hugh Jampton

On Wed, 19 Oct 2005, Tyson wrote:

I have both currently. They come in via different wiring there is no
problem with having both.

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Stephen Chadfield wrote:
Except when the NTL monkeys steal the BT wiring for their circuit
without checking to see whether it's still in use (yes I kid you not it
does happen)

Stephen Chadfield Wrote:
But aint BT phoneline connected thru underground cable, so how wud i
be possible to have NTL cable broadband if NTL is connected via cabl
aswell?
How do the engineer install the modem during the day of installation
Is there any drilling on the concrete involve

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:55:42 +0100, Tyson wrote:

are you talking about having an adsl line and a cable modem or just the tv
channels.

i dont see any probs adding a cable modem as they seem to run of coaxial
cable and unless ntl have changed things will let you sign up without any
tv or phone line so it woulnt affect the adsl connection at all.

it does seem a strange thing to do though since the max ntl speed at the
moment {1} is 3 megs while your bill for 2 high speed lines would be a lot
and you could probably get a 8meg or if lucky 24 meg unbundled isp for a
fraction of the price

{1} they did a marketing trick telling everyone they would up the lines
speed to 10 megs but you will be looking at next year unless you pay a
fortune or get them to set it up as part of a new customer deal

The problem is you'd need to be near enough to the exchange and in an area
where it is offered to get 8mb or 24mb and NTL/Telewest are upgrading
everybody to 10mb. NTL/Telewest are absolute shit for telephone but their
internet service is very reliable.

I'd recommend getting rid of your BT ADSL, moving the BT line to somebody
like Red Telecom with a bundled line rental, and getting NTL cable
broadband, withOUT tv, as the set-top boxes are very unreliable. Basically
if you can wait till the upgrade to 10mbps then wait, otherwise get 2xNTL
3mbps and get a cheap router and put them together, meaning you have;
NTL 6mbps till the upgrade or 20mbps after the upgrade, costing you
£75.58
Sky TV
Red Telecom/OneTel phone line

Advantages: No bills or dealings with BT, No ADSL which is not that
reliable, No NTL set-top boxes....

And before everybody flames about ADSL being unreliable. ADSL runs through
the phone line, and depends on the right power running through the line, if
you are very near the exchange that is all nice and dandy, but if you're
not, the speed will go down, and the extra filters can always malfunction
causing hell.

"epaton" <epaton@null.com> wrote in message
newsan.2005.10.18.22.54.29.379828@null.com...

ntl lay their own copper from their fiber network to your house, cable
modems arent actually modems and never touch the phone system, when we got
it done the ntl guys layed a cable below the garden path and drilled a
hole through the wall to the room the modem was in. they arent allowed to
drill through internal walls even if you ask i think.

In article <43567c06$0$15060$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net>, Kraftee
wrote:
That is only likely if you take NTL phone service as well as broadband
and/or TV. I've got BT for phone, NTL for broadband and Sky for TV.

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epaton Wrote:
But cud u explain in detail how they will install the modem wiring, d
they need to drill any holes on the concrete floor?
So is it a yes or no that i cud get NTL broadband even with BT ADS
broadband which i currently have

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In article <Tyson.1x7cb0@broadbandbanter.com>, Tyson.1x7cb0
@broadbandbanter.com says...

It has nothing to do with any BT installation - a cable comes in through
your wall, and is routed to the relevant room - in our case, they run it
across the garden, up the outside wall, into the attic, and down through
the corner of the roof to where it's going. In the case of a cable modem
it's attached to the wall, to near floor level, and then about 5 ft of
cable until it enters the modem.

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 23:08:13 +0000, Jonathan Sklan-Willis wrote:

There might not be much point in getting two connections because the
lines are contended, so both 3Mb connections would be sharing the same
bandwidth. Unless the channel between the modem and the conversion to
fibre is 6Mb, you won't get any extra speed.

Steve.

The answer to could you get it with BT ADSL is, if you get a router then
yes. They will only drill through the house, which they clean up, they
cannot legally wire through walls within your house.

"Tyson" <Tyson.1x7cb0@broadbandbanter.com> wrote in message
news:Tyson.1x7cb0@broadbandbanter.com...

Jonathan Sklan-Willis wrote:
There is nothing stopping the NTL fitters from drilling thru internal
walls, except that they are on 'price jobs', ie they get a standard
amount per job completed. So the quicker they can do the job 'sorry
mate but it has to go on the outside wall. etc' the more jobs they can
do in the day which means they get more money..

Kraftee Wrote:
Do I pay by cash wen the NTL broadband engineer comes to fix m
connection

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Tyson wrote:
No you get billed by NTL who then pay a standard price per job to their
sub contractors..

epaton Wrote:
OK epaton seems to think that NTL are being less than honest when the
announced to the world that they would upgrade everyone to 10meg soon.
(by the way "Get them to set it up as part of a deal" come on!!!)

Any way are there any NTL customers out there who have already bee
upgraded?

Blueyonder seem to be flying through it

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On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:27:20 +0100, Alan Gauton
<agauton-remove@postmaster.co.uk> wrote:

No, you can have just BB from NTL with no other services if you so
wish. The broadband is over a coax connection.