PeterT <peterthomas8899@googlemail.com> wrote:

[snip]

Easy: he's the BNP rep. They criticise him because he's the
represenative of a party of racist scumbags, and the only way to deal
with that sort is shut them out, shut them up, and then flatten them.

Rowland.

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Steve Terry <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote:

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1) Immigration into the UK is tightly controlled.
2) The problems of immigration are more perceived than real.

But I agree to an extent that `the powers that be' should do more to
help people like you understand what's really going on. The problems
that the BNP complain about do need to be discussed openly at the same
time as the BNP is crushed.

But the `powers that be' won't do the needful - the problems of those
who feel dispossessed are actually caused by the British government, so
they're never going to tell you the truth about it. Just let you carry
on thinking your half-baked thoughts about how it's all the fault of the
immigrants, rather than the fault of a nation that won't spend the money
needed to educate its children properly, and so on.

You're not wrong there.

Riiight... So we're all crammed into little stacked up boxes with
nothing but synthetic food to eat?

My herb plot in my suburban back garden must be a drug induced
hallucination, then.

How is that any different to the England that Will Shakespeare knew?

Off you go then, and good riddance.

Rowland.

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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

If it's a spade, that's fine.

If it's referring to a human being, a person with life and loves and
human dignity, it's not.

I've met objections to both. Very strong objections from all sorts
about the term of racial abuse, `Chink'; and rather different objections
from one particular Texan about being called a Yank.

`Yank' is not a term of racial abuse; it's a mildly disrespectful
identifier. Any Yank who doesn't like it can respond with `Limey' or
any one of a number of progressively more derogatory terms they have for
us and everything's fine and balanced.

If an Aussie wants to call me a whinging pom, that's fine - but he'd
better be ready for some convict jokes and maybe a few pointed comments
about what's happened to the black fellas.

Nothing - they just deserve the same respect as anyone else.

What'd be wrong with that if they did?

I was once very, erm, friendly with a lass from Indonesia (she'd come
here at the age of 14) who had beautiful golden brown skin. *LOTS* of
people were very jealous of me, while I was horribly smug (and 16, fresh
from an all-boys high school, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it).

And there's an episode of around the same era that I'd not mind to be
used as evidence of me being a Jew-lover, either. I certainly didn't
have any objections at all.

I just like pretty girls. That's normal for a chap, isn't it?

Variations in skin colour or cultural background doesn't stop pretty
girls being pretty as far as most heterosexual, sexually mature males of
our species are concerned. And some people have particular preferences
- why not?

Rowland.


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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

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If there's any blood flowing down the streets over this matter, it'll be
because of a riot between the BNP and decent people who want to smash
them. And you, the BNP, will lose.

Remember the Battle of Cable Street and tremble.

<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Cable_Street>

Be afraid, be very afraid: the decent people of Britain have never stood
for your sort. We have always crushed your sort in the past.

You will fail. We will win.

Rowland.

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On Mon, 5 May 2008 05:43:38 +0100, real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:

Ah, you mean like the Good Friday Appeasement?

J.J. O'Shea <try.not.to@but.see.sig> wrote:


It has to be irony, but I can't see the joke.

Rowland.

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Cicero <sheldrake@hellfire.co.uk> wrote:

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I've met BNP members, talked to them, read the literature.

I've heard them on the radio, seen them on the telly, read the Websites.

BNP scumbags are not losers *by definition*. That is incorrect.

However, most BNP members can fairly be characterised as scumbag
down-and-out losers from what I have seen.

Goebbels wouldn't like me if he met me because I'd try to kill him[1].
I'm an anarchist, so I'm not inside the realms of your understanding.

Rowland.

[1] Actually, I'd hope I'd be able to work out that I was undergoing an
hallucination and keep very, very still.

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Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> wrote:

I am an anarchist.

I take the line that one should be permitted to express any opinion at
all.

You seem to be suggesting that some ideas should not be expressed - such
as the idea that it's proper to suppress the racist scumbags of the BNP.

Why is that?

I also take the line that one should be able to take any action at all.

Add them together, and proper freedom means being able to judge and take
action against those whom you consider to be a menace to decency,
amongst other things.

So it's entirely consistent to promote freedom of expression whilst also
fighting racist scumbags any way I like - which would include shouting
them down if I saw 'em in public and I had a means of avoiding being
beaten up for daring to raise objections to them - which is what these
thugs do, isn't it?

If the scum of the BNP are supposed to be permitted to have freedom,
surely I should to?

(Someone's going to mis-understand me: the freedom to say anything and
do anything has a flipside. You've got to take full responsibility for
the *consequences* of what you do - so don't be surprised if, after
murdering someone, you go to bed one night and never wake up, for
example.)

Rowland.


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Andy Cap <Andy_Cap@nosuch.co.uk> wrote:

You naive child.

The EU does not believe in democracy. It believes in doing what it
thinks we need, while persuading the people of Europe that everything's
fine using any con-trick it can come up with, including the European
Parliament and similar farces.

I loathe it - but it doesn't half beat a re-run of the Crimean war, or
the fire-bombing of Dresden.

Rowland.

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Knight Of The Road <russiatrucking@hotmail.com> wrote:

That's the decison of the democratically elected other representatives,
as is their right.

Are you suggesting that the decent, ordinary British voters who elected
all the other representatives should suffer their representatives to
have their democratic rights stripped from them and so be forced to
listen to the BNP?

The BNP has no right to demand that anyone listens to them in the London
Assembly, and these democractically elected representatives of the
decent, ordinary, hard-working British people of London have decided
that they want to exercise their democratic right to walk out and not
listen to his vile ravings.

They've done what they think the decent, ordinary British people who
elected them would like them to do, which is send the BNP man to
coventry, as is their democractic right.

Rowland.

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Steve Terry <gFOURwwk@tesco.net> wrote:

We're still a large majority in England, us white English people.

And I name you BNP types scum.

No, I'm just letting you know where you stand, that's all.

Decent, ordinary white British people are - most of us - entirely
opposed to the BNP. Why do you think almost all of us vote for someone
else?

We know what you creatures are. And we detest you.

Rowland.

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<mymail@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Well, as far as I can smell it out, I reckon almost all the non-white
people in Britain loathe and detest those scumbags more than they detest
you scumbags in the BNP - it'd be worth thinking about that.

What about the (roughly) 8-9 people slaughtered every day by ordinary
British people driving on ordinary British roads?

Since you can't do simple arithmetic, I'll help you out: it's about 60
people a week, and about 250 a month. Dead, because of British drivers
killing innocents British people on British roads. And what have you
done to stop this slaughter? Nothing - you clearly don't give a damn
about the ordinary British people of this country, do you? You just
hate darkies, that's what it is, isn't it? You don't give a damn about
people being slaughtered in huge numbers by white British people - no,
it's okay for that to happen, but when a handful of brown-skinned
maniacs do something crazy, you say `Oh, they had brown skin, so all
brown skinned people are terrorist murderers'. Moron.

And you ignore the real threats, the real killers: the British
government permits British people to purchase cigarettes, drivers are
mass-murderers as a group, and so on.

Moron squared (do you know what that means, I wonder? Probably too
ignorant to understand).

The police have killed many more people than Islamist terrorists in the
UK, don't forget.

The recent terrorist threat has proven absurd compared to what this
country suffered in the 1970s (have you any idea what they were doing to
each other in Ireland? - all home grown, that), and neither can be
compared to what the Luftwaffe did from 1939-45.

(what the RAF and USAAF did to Germany was much worse than what they did
to us)

The nation withstood the Luftwaffe, withstood 1970s terrorism, withstood
1980s terrorism, and now we happen to have worries about terrorism
caused mostly by notably brown people with big beards. Well, it was a
bit like that with a lot of it in the 1970s. So what? It's not a
serious threat to the nation.

We don't know - you keep that stuff very carefully hidden. The chief
devil, Nick Griffin, is certainly nobody's fool and makes sure the BNP
looks as clean as possible.

I do know that groups associated with the BNP (much as the IRA was/is
associated with Sinn Fein) have odvocated and sometimes carried out
terrorist attacks.

I've got my priorities right: first thing, you get deported. You do not
deserve to live in this fine nation of ours. BNP out of Britain, that's
what I say.

Almost everyone murdered in Britain has been murdered by a white person.

Our government is slaughtering `coloured' people abroad with military
action in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Is it any wonder that a tiny number have been brainwashed by evil
power-crazed old men to try to take direct action to stop that
slaughter, or so they were told in the brainwashing?

You should pity the suicide bombers, and be aware that the men behind
them are just the same sort of evil power-crazed nutcases as run all
nations in the world[1] - except that in most places, they've worked out
protocols so that they just have a /metaphorically/ cut-throat fight for
the prize of ruling.

And I don't suppose you could understand any of that - never mind, let
it stand that you are low-life scum who does not deserve to be permitted
to live in Britain. And that is the judgement of a decent, ordinary,
white-skinned, blue-eyed loyal Englishman. Me.

Rowland.

[1] Have I mentioned I'm an anarchist?

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Graz <graz@gmail.com> wrote:

That was a government action - not action by decent, ordinary British
people standing up to racist scumbags. And it's the decent, ordinary
British folk of this Great Britain who will see that the BNP is
destroyed in the end.

(And in any case, that's Ireland. Totally unconnected to anything else;
Bliar's in thrall to the Pope, so of course he sold the Prods down the
river.)

The decent folk of Britain have always crushed racist scum in the end -
the BUF was destroyed, the NF was destroyed, and the BNP will be
destroyed in its turn.

The decent side of British culture hasn't got any time for your sort,
and never has had.

Have no doubt: your time is short.

Rowland.
(the anti-clerical anarchist)

[1] Except I know they came down from Scotland to fight at Cable
Street.


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Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:

You silly sod. Nothing of the sort happened. People saw them for what
they were and sort of drifted away from them.

You think Cable Street was some glorious battle for freedom. It was a
nasty street brawl, now held up by some people as a huge victory by some
thugs against other thugs, indistinguishable from the thousands of
similar battles in Germany in the 1920s and early 1930s.


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Rowland McDonnell <real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet> wrote:

It's a fair price to pay for having a decent hoon along fun roads.


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Rowland McDonnell wrote:

Forgot to take your medication again

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Oh, it's not a joke.
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On Mon, 5 May 2008 04:42:20 +0100, Rowland McDonnell wrote
(in article <1igg9x3.havoghwyl7knN%real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet>):

even if she's only half indian, it rather stretches the truth that he is some
sort of raving BNP sympathiser white supremacist, as has been implied by his
political opponents.

In fact, he is about as international as you can get- born in the US, to
british parents, father was minister in EU, he was educated in Brussels.
married to half indian.

I like him. But then again, I like Ken Livingston too.

On Mon, 5 May 2008 06:23:28 +0100, real-address-in-sig@flur.bltigibbet
(Rowland McDonnell) wrote:


I don't think you know what Anarchy is
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On Sun, 4 May 2008 21:52:26 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
<toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote:

I know of people that would like to line the English/Welsh border with
barbed wire to keep the English out
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